I didn't realise that this was a discussion over whether I have misused certain words. — Chester
Counterarguments? — ssu
- As the US has already basically lost it's leadership position in the world thanks to Trump, it will also lose it's clout in fighting pandemics and in the health care sector as everybody now understands how US institutions like the CDC or NIH are totally open to the whims and delusions of totally ignorant ideological politicians. — ssu
- The majority of Americans will draw the correct conclusions from this and if possible, will stay home and continue social distancing. A minority won't and this will keep the pandemic strong. — ssu
it is clear that the vast majority of people that die with covid 19 are already seriously ill. — Chester
The US is still the sole superpower.Think that's an overstatement regarding the leadership position I think. The US's military position has not been weakened due to the coronavirus, they will still have all the economic influence the dollar brings so long as international trade relies upon it, and they're almost certainly not going to lose their veto in the UN. — fdrake
But I was talking really about leadership: the ability to lead, to coordinate, to get other nations to follow your agenda. To get various countries to go along with your policies even if not close allies (or those in need of help). That is what I mean by leadership. — ssu
You might not understand just how much Trump just has done and how different it was, well, like when George Bush senior formed an alliance with Muslims countries like Pakistan, Egypt and Syria to fight against Saddam Hussein and got the green light to go ahead from the dying Soviet Union. — ssu
Perhaps there would be better threads to talk this, but just a quick response.Eh, I guess we'll see what happens. Trump's insistence on screwing over the country's diplomats has been pretty stupid. — fdrake
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