Necessity is not sufficiency. — Pfhorrest
Abdicating their responsibility for their sins and riding into heaven on their Jesus scapegoat is what Christianity is all about. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Apologies, but you appear to have no understanding of what Christianity is all about, and no, I'm not going to teach you. Good luck with the holy jihad! — Nuke
Atheism is the lack of a (religious) ideology It's there in the name. A (not) theism (religion). You qualify as an atheist simply by not believing in a god or gods. — Baden
atheism is simply a refusal to believe in God — Vaibhav Narula
Atheism is the belief that human reason is qualified to deliver useful statements on issues the scale of the God question. — Nuke
Atheism feels like "simply a refusal to believe in God" to most atheists because their faith in the infinite reach of human reason is so deep, and so unexamined, that they take such a qualification to be an obvious given requiring no inspection. — Nuke
Few atheists seem to grasp that atheism is just as much a positive assertion as theism, with just as little proof to back it up. — Nuke
That said, the belief that posting the above will accomplish anything at all is just as lacking in evidence as theism and atheism, so we are united as brothers in self delusion. — Nuke
Atheism is the belief that human reason is qualified to deliver useful statements on issues the scale of the God question. — Nuke
There are theists who also believe reason is capable make informative statements about God. That does not make them atheists. — Vaibhav Narula
A specific atheist might have that belief but thats him — DingoJones
Neither is atheism a “refusal” to believe in god, its simply the lack of a belief in god. — DingoJones
First, there is no “faith” in reason, not in the same sense that religious people have faith in god. — DingoJones
o its not, Believers are the ones making making a positive assertion, and atheists the ones unconvinced by the positive assertion believers make. — DingoJones
There are many former believers who have been convinced by argument or discussion and are now atheists. — DingoJones
That assumption is however required in atheism. I've been doing this for 20 years, and have yet to meet an atheist who arrived at their perspective by any other method. — Nuke
Could you please introduce us to the atheist who does not believe that reason is qualified to generate useful statements on the subject? — Nuke
Here's how it works. Not understanding their own perspective, most atheists will sincerely claim it is "merely a lack of belief". And then dictionary writers who probably aren't that interested in the topic and are racing against a deadline will accept this claim and put it in the dictionary. And then the atheists will hold up the dictionary as proof saying, "See? We told you. It's right in the dictionary!" — Nuke
Ah, good, so you will then be able to provide proof that reason is qualified. — Nuke
Believers are making a positive assertion that they know they are making, and atheists are (typically) making a positive assertion that they don't know they are making.
Please recall, theism is thousands of years old, whereas atheism is maybe 500 years old, or something like that. It's grandpa talking to a teenager. — Nuke
Ok, fair point. I will reframe my claim that this is a highly inefficient process which typically, but not always, goes pretty much nowhere. — Nuke
Perhaps you are right in all of your opinions but it doesn't benefit me to argue with you. — christian2017
I'm not Christian by the way. — Nuke
You can have an ideology without being religious, — Pfhorrest
An “ism” isn’t the same thing as a religion. That’s the point. — Pfhorrest
Abdicating their responsibility for their sins and riding into heaven on their Jesus scapegoat is what Christianity is all about.
Strange how so called good Christian people follow such a vile and immoral ideology. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
And you profess to know more than a Gnostic Christian about Christianity. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
The method of thinking about the question, possibly looking for evidence, and then coming to the best conclusion they can? What other method would you think better? — Pfhorrest
yes an atheist might say they do not believe there is a god but that does not mean they are making a positive claim.“ — DingoJones
The word 'Christianity' is already a misunderstanding - in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross. — Gus Lamarch
in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross. — Gus Lamarch
It's not just you. The understanding of Christianity on philosophy forums tends to be pretty primitive. Almost all the focus goes to ideological assertions, while crucial topics like the experience of love are almost entirely ignored. — Nuke
and the next generation turned that into a historical narrative. — Marchesk
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