Did you squeal so much when 80,000 Americans died of flu in 2017-18...thought not.

Deaths per million in the UK is lower than Belgium, Spain and Italy...blanket statements like the UK being the country with the second highest number of deaths can be misleading...and it also shows you are completely willing to believe the CCP, guess that shows your politics.

Correct. Because this is killing Americans at a way faster rate, and moreover, alot of this death is preventable. And while we're at it, the fact that 80,000 Americans died from the flu in one year is indeed pathetic and that kind of thing should never happen either.

Yeah, but you are clearly treating this virus as a political football...which is pretty disgusting.

Any blame for this virus lies completely with the CCP.

The handling of virus is a matter of politics through and through. And the denial of that is no less political through and through. Disgusting is tens of thousands of unnecessary and preventable deaths.

So you think the leftist government of Sweden have been completely wrong then? Death rates have to be counted in deaths per million and balanced against things like population density. Once you count properly the US is doing no worse than most Western countries.

So you think the leftist government of Sweden have been completely wrong then? — Chester

Of course - the Swedish experiment has been a total failure. And insofar as the US is the 9th worst affected country by capita - measured by deaths - I'd say yeah, it's still bloody awful. The US supposedly being among the most 'developed' nations on the planet.

Sweden has done no worse than most western European countries and has still kept a semblance of normality...I'd call that a win, but ho-hum.

9th worse obviously depends on other countries being honest with their numbers...the CCP aren't , no one is counting in India and there are even questions over Germany (I haven't looked into it but apparently there has been a spike in deaths there miraculously not caused by Covid).Also you have to accept that it's harder locking down a free and open society than a controlled one...so in that sense higher death rates can be a good sign .

Sweden has the sixth worst death rate on the planet right now. As for the rest - I don't debate half-truths, rumours, and equivocations.

You leftists can't handle facts can you...and it's you lot that normally bleat on about "nuance" lol.

You didn't bring any facts to the table. Only vague gesturing towards 'apparently' such and such and 'questions' about such and such. Fluff.

Whereas you completely trust authorities like the CCP to give you the facts. Also I've read this morning that Professor Karol Sikora is stating that cancer deaths are being recorded as Covid deaths in England. The numbers can not be trusted...only the gullible are buying in to them.

It's unfortunate that you've become a full blown conspiracy theorist. Good luck with that.

Professor Karol Sikora is stating that cancer deaths are being recorded as Covid deaths in England. — Chester

About Prof. Sikora:

Sikora is very critical of cancer care available on the National Health Service (NHS). During US President Barack Obama's push to enact healthcare reform, in early May 2009 he appeared in a Republican Party attack ad in the US criticizing National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) and the NHS. In the attack ad, Sikora was referred to as professor of oncology at Imperial College.

Imperial College London is seeking legal advice on ways to prevent Sikora from using any title suggesting he has a position or formal association with it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52846679

"Twitter has hidden one of President Donald Trump's tweets from his profile, saying it violates rules about glorifying violence. But instead of being deleted, it has been replaced with a warning and can be viewed by clicking on it." — BBC

Yasss kweeen Twitter make 'em mad!*


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I really wondered how long it would go before the most well known twitter user ends up in a fight with his main media outlet. It took a long time, actually!

Likely Twitter has seen enough to make the decision to treat Trump as the fool he is.

Talk about a lame duck...

So my lack of faith in political institutions means I'm a conspiracy theorist ?

I guess now we can all see that leftism = socialism = nazism = fascism = communism.

It's all the same materialism, professing to know what is good and beautiful to be a matter of scientific fact, instead of a matter of chosen opinion on the SPIRIT in which decisions are made.

I agree that fascists and communists share much in common.

Nazism pretends to know the content of character of people as scientific fact of natural selection theory. Communism, also called scientific socialism, pretends to know what is good as a fact of societal evolution. Incidentally, eugenics is now part of life in China. And that Chiliean socialist of the past Aiiende, was also a eugenicist.

The common denominator is always the original sin of eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This kind of feeling of factual certitude about what is good, is leading them to cancel freedom of opinion.

Neither ideology believes in the individual, whereas in Christianity (for instance) the individual is primary.To both the communist and fascist individual wrongs are not wrongs if they serve the cause...that's why both ideologies gravitate toward evil.

I know it's a bit uncomfortable for leftists but Twitter's attack on trump will backfire on it. Social media either treats everyone the same or it has become political and therefore must be controlled.

Fascism in Trump's America.

Some of the big social media companies are the very definition of fascism ...a tie up between big privately owned business and powerful political lobby groups. Some of you leftists seem not to have a clue what fascism is...

Even the co-founder of Wikipedia is stating that it has become clearly politically biased...

https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/

It's kind of funny that left-wingers put their faith in big government and the privately owned msm...really strange that leftists now back the establishment on virtually every subject.

What's fascinating here is that you appear to be utterly blind to the carnage around that scene...like that arrest happened in a vacuum.

Anyone can pretend to be a journalist.

Means you don't understand. Learning the difference between fact and opinion is basic like learning abc and basic arithmetic. It is not a choice what you want to believe what a fact is and what an opinion is.

They identified themselves. ... Watch now as the liberty freaks embrace authoritarianism and abuse of first amendment rights while even the governor has apologized.