For me, the primary proof is the materialist view, that at the bottom of things are inanimate subatomic particles going about their business, strictly adhering to laws of physics, determining where each particle goes from moment to moment. Quantum physics, at best, introduces randomness into the situation, but not free-will control of the particles movements. Higher level determinist arguments utilizing psychology or brain science do not conflict with subatomic view, and do themselves point independently to hard determinism, but its the materialist view upon which I rest my hat.What's the proof that convinced you? — TheMadFool
So there isn't a problem, yet you applaud that Brook Norton is struggling with a problem that you say doesn't exist?If you are truly a hard determinist, I do not see what the problem would be. Whatever happens was destined (determined), fated to happen you do not really have any real control anyway so why struggle with it. The fact that you are struggling implies you do not really believe it, and I applaud you for that. — prothero
It seems to me that accepting some philosophy is simply accepting the facts of that philosophy, free-will or not.Hard determinism is a useless philosophy except as an excuse for accepting any and everything that happens. — prothero
Having gone through a journey of discovery, I find I have firmly landed as a hard determinist. But I am having a heck of a time finding any writing that addressed how we should live our mental lives as a hard determinist. I have a lot of ideas on the topic but was hoping not to have to try to reinvent the wheel. My moderate search over the last few months has only turned up a few paragraphs that directly address this problem. I'm hoping to find a writing on how to view justice, personal motivation, and the like, for a hard determinist. Anybody know of such a how-to writing?? — Brook Norton
Having gone through a journey of discovery, I find I have firmly landed as a hard determinist. But I am having a heck of a time finding any writing that addressed how we should live our mental lives as a hard determinist. I have a lot of ideas on the topic but was hoping not to have to try to reinvent the wheel. My moderate search over the last few months has only turned up a few paragraphs that directly address this problem. I'm hoping to find a writing on how to view justice, personal motivation, and the like, for a hard determinist. Anybody know of such a how-to writing??
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