The question is, are some worldviews so out of step with facts that they're doomed to go out of fashion as people gather more and more information? Alternatively, is it a must that worldviews always have to conform to facts? I mean religion these days has the reputation of being out of touch with reality and to that extent undesirable but that doesn't detract from its history as the most popular worldview for over two thousand years now. Isn't this proof that worldviews needn't always be fact-based? — TheMadFool
It was easier to say the universe was created in 7 days in a time where we had no clue how the world came to be.
They need to be facts based insofar that makes them convincing enough for people to belief in, I suppose.
That's why some religious people go through all the trouble of reworking the creation story into intelligent design. That at least has some semblance of being in accordance with scientific findings. — ChatteringMonkey
Alternatively, is it a must that worldviews always have to conform to facts? — TheMadFool
That's why some religious people go through all the trouble of reworking the creation story into intelligent design — ChatteringMonkey
You make it look like humans are devolving into lower and lower states of intelligence. Why do you call scientific truths, "primitive truths"? As far as anyone can tell, science is the new kid on the block and that kid seems to be leading the vanguard in our quest for knowledge. — TheMadFool
Religion brings wisdom? Tell that to a young girl being stoned to death for becoming pregnant. :worry: — jgill
Science vs consciousness? Scientists are not conscious? :roll: — jgill
I don't mean primitive in a cultural sense I mean it in a physical, abstract sense. Science and mathematics are involved with the most basic primitive truths about the physical world and about abstraction. If society is a passenger liner, scientists are down in the engine room. The distinguished guests are in the upper decks, listening to opera and discussing more evolved things. — EnPassant
because generally people also don't care that much about truth that all the details have to be correct. — ChatteringMonkey
Alternatively, is it a must that worldviews always have to conform to facts? — TheMadFool
Aah! Makes sense. Would the distinguished guests be keeping an ear out for strange sounds coming from the engine room? — TheMadFool
Wisdom will never be able to keep up with knowledge. Knowledge grows exponentially, while wisdom grows incrementally at best. Thus, the gap between wisdom and knowledge (ie. power) grows ever wider, ever faster. — Nuke
Lurking beneath this assumption is the pernicious manipulation of materialistic categories to obscure introspective or traditionally "spiritual" truths we must acknowledge if social life is to be adequately cohesive, fulfilling, nonnihilistic, conscientiously and effectively activist. — Enrique
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