Indeed, so don't argue for it on their behalf. — Marchesk
Well Perhaps don't insinuate that I do. I have enough humility to argue on my own behalf, and not other people's. — unenlightened
The myth of “outside agitators” is being simultaneously weaponized by conservatives and liberals to demean and intimidate protesters. — Jacobin - Don’t Fall for the Myth of the “Outside Agitator” in Racial Justice Protests
If society ignores or is indifferent to suffering and problems in a part of their community, then they have no right to condemn the violence and destruction erupting. — Christoffer
How would that work? What's demeaning or intimidating about outside agitators? Also is Jacobin telling us that asking the question "are there outside agitators" is off-limits? — Echarmion
Police terror is an economic-political strategy, not an accidental feature of current social reality. None of what has been happening can be understood in isolation of these factors. The last of the factors mentioned here - the need to separate the 'deserving' from the 'undeserving poor' is yet another reason to resist the bourgeois attempt to parse out 'rioters' from 'protesters'. Grievance comes as a package, and it affects not only 'deserving' grievers, but those - especially those - who have been so destitute that looting becomes a viable strategy of response. — StreetlightX
The thing is a few bad people can make a helluva mess giving the misconception that more foul play is at work than there is. — I like sushi
Please put comments on racism, systemic racism, and police brutality in the US, along with the public reaction to these phenomena, here. — Baden
I was hoping for some kind of discussion about what is happening, how it can/could be handled, and what steps to take towards a future goal - and what such incremental steps may look like.
I think it reasonably fair to say progress has been made, albeit with backwards steps along the way. The encouraging signs are that these public protests look string enough not to dissipate - this looks like an opportunity for rational discussion and a rethink about troubled areas in US culture. — I like sushi
Why should we care about people acquiescing to injustice or those actively defending it? — Benkei
I agree with the sentiment. Though I wonder what exactly the relation between systemic injustice and individual morality is. It strikes me that while your argument sounds true, there seems to be an element of collective punishment. It doesn't matter who, specifically, the violence hits so long as they share collective guild as part of some group. Do you think that's a problem? — Echarmion
I think it reasonably fair to say progress has been made, albeit with backwards steps along the way. The encouraging signs are that these public protests look string enough not to dissipate - this looks like an opportunity for rational discussion and a rethink about troubled areas in US culture. — I like sushi
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