Even if hardcore individualism and agency was a thing, you can still have systemic racism as an ermee property of the whole. — Benkei
Better question for this thread is, is questioning the existence of systemic racism in the US, an act of racism itself? — Benkei
Even if hardcore individualism and agency was a thing, you can still have systemic racism as an emergent property of the whole. That's why even when there would be no racists, society could still be racist. — Benkei
Small point. I'm thinking Streetlight is English. And if he isn't, then never mind. But I'm pretty sure he must know that education in England - what I call English-system education - that has been the model for and provided education for maybe half the world, pretty much does not exist in America. There are gross similarities to be sure, but in terms of substance, no real comparison. American education peaked, for a guess, before 1940, coasted until around 1960 - these dates arbitrary guesses - and has been steadily downhill since. I am not a fan of Streetlight's invective, but whatever he might say about American education, esp. v. English-system education. would be difficult to deny or challenge. If he comments, one can hope he'll be thoughtful.One has to remember that the kind of education we get - — StreetlightX
Probably the only way some folks here will understand what systemic racism is is if we make their group slaves for 400 years then when we have everything and they have fuck all, tell them they're free, offer them jobs in Target, with the other major option being prison, and if they complain, tell them the system is stacked in their favour. (And maybe we'll throw in 100 years of apartheid just for fun). — Baden
The power relations have not changed much since the end of slavery and women's suffrage. — Benkei
I'm done with this anyways. For all I care, blacks should just go get revenge if white people don't want to listen. Burn this shit down and take it all. — Benkei
It's cute how those who are not regularly murdered everyday on the basis of their skin color get to explain how skin colour does not matter. It's like those celebs who, while hiding out in their multi-million dollar mansions, got to tell everyone that 'we're all in this together'. — StreetlightX
But if people are saying that there's not a shred of systemic racism in the US then I'd suggest your description of them is accurate. — Judaka
. It just seems to me that the term is a bit vague to some people and it's hard to really confirm or deny it — Judaka
I know I haven't been murdered on a daily basis but please don't try to undermine my views just because of that. — Judaka
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