You're asking the same question. What percentage of cops are racist? — Harry Hindu
left-wing activism seems to have a problem of being unnecessarily confrontational. — Echarmion
For example, I noted earlier how "defund the police" is a really poor slogan to use for what an overhaul of policing. Very easy to use to evoke fears of the lawless anarchists. — Echarmion
What percentage of cops are racist? — Harry Hindu
Err, that's not what I was paraphrasing — Judaka
even in the philosophy forums here, that many people are incapable of accepting the basic facts of reality — ernestm
When the autopsy report is read in the trial, showing the dead guy could have died of an overdose of meth and fentanyl — ernestm
If you are speaking about activism specifically, then yes, antifa is a confrontational movement of activism. It reacts to fascist movements and development and act against those developments in a confrontational way. — Christoffer
So, be very careful to label political movements as "confrontational" just because they oppose the status quo. Anyone in Nazi-Germany who had different political views than the Nazis were looked upon as "confrontational".
It doesn't mean anything more than questioning the status quo, but can easily be made into a fallacious argument against leftist politics. — Christoffer
Defund in this case has to do with the balance between funds for things that help people in the community which the police are governing. If the police have more funding than all combined active organizations that try to help the poor, trying to increase the quality of life and get people out of unemployment, you know, helping people to actually end the socio-economic conditions that will eventually breed crime, then that funding is unbalanced and not based on rational reasons.
Much of the funding also has to do with how the prison system works. You should check out "The 13th Amendment" on Netflix if you want a deep dive into the problems.
Also, who are the lawless anarchists? Anarchy is a political ideology and I don't seem to recall any of that in this. — Christoffer
You mean this autopsy?
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/george-floyd-independent-autopsy/index.html
Or what are you referring to? — Christoffer
When Aristotle confronted this problem, he said all had to be given equal rights of speech, regardless eduction, and history has shown that is necessary for democracies to function. It remains a question whether democracies should continue to function. One of the founders, I forget which, said the USA should be disbanded after a hundred years. — ernestm
Russia seems to be doing much better. — ernestm
Meth and fentanyl are a deadly combination by themselves, even without a pre-existing heart condition. — ernestm
I wasn't talking about Antifa specifically. Antifa activism is in some respects a special case, and I understand the arguments around why, say, pacifism is not viable when confronted with facism. I don't want to argue that certain tactics are off limits. The broader context of my position is one of effectiveness. — Echarmion
Perhaps I should have chosen a different word, but I did say "unnecessarily confrontational". I don't mean to apply confrontation is never warranted. I don't even ascribe to the position that violence never is. It's more to do with messaging. — Echarmion
If the slogan you chant needs a 30 minute explanation video to be properly understood, that's a problem. — Echarmion
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