Yes.Are black people human beings that possess characteristic human behaviors, or no? — Harry Hindu
No. It's logical.But underneath there is the sense of the matter. Your question above is clearly rhetorical, — tim wood
Then it can be possible that blacks are being racist against whites. When it is black on white crime, is it necessarily racism on the part of the black person? It doesn't seem that we are applying the same rules to all, equally.Are black people human beings that possess characteristic human behaviors, or no?
— Harry Hindu
Yes. — tim wood
How about I just feed you to my pet lizard?Interesting to think that from the first cell in the Precambrian soup to me is just a matter of genetic drift, mutation, and occasional isolation. It must be true, but it makes everything a little closer and cozier than I'm altogether comfortable with. We're family, practically fraternal twins! Can you lend a brother a quick $30,000? — tim wood
Differences between species are merely differences between "races" built up over longer periods of time of being isolated from each other. Humans were isolated geographically and genetic drift had begun to take effect in the human genome. It just so happens that we have found each other again before complete genetic isolation happened where the changes that built up prevented us from sharing genes and producing viable offspring.A little variation can matter a lot between species.
I was referring to a little within species; humans. The race categories we're familiar with have no genetic support. — fdrake
If race is arbitrary, then why are we so concerned about black representation in government? Just as I should see a human being, not a black person, on the ground with a knee on their neck, blacks should see themselves when unarmed whites are being shot by police at twice the rate, and protest when it happens.
Intelligent human beings can see the contradictions - the hypocrisy - and ignore it. — Harry Hindu
I have a 10 hour video for you to watch on race. I'd like you to watch it and then respond with an 8-10 page paper properly annotated (MLA format). Until then I refuse to engage you on this topic! — BitconnectCarlos
It stands to reason that the anti-racist answer is NO.Should affluent (mostly white) communities and private property remain whole and safe in the midsts of populations herded and hunted like cattle and sport by law enforcement (& white vigilante thugs)? Should anyone be safe in a society wherein a significant fraction of the citizenry, in fact, is not safe from state-sanctioned killers - even in their own homes (e.g. Breonna Taylor, Botham Jean, Stephon Clark, Rayshard Brooks et al)? — 180 Proof
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. — Letter from A Birmingham Jail (1963)
The police murdered a human being. — Harry Hindu
The color and sex are irrelevant. — Harry Hindu
The fact that protests happen as a result of a black person being killed when many whites have been killed by the same method indicates that White Lives Don't Matter as much a Black Lives. — Harry Hindu
But then there are many more Black Lives taken at the hands of other Blacks, but no protests as a result of that either, so it seems that only Black Lives Ended by Police Brutality Matter is what "Black Lives Matter" really means. — Harry Hindu
I'd say the school book story is that after MLK racism was solved, more or less. — Moliere
Would “positive” racial and ethnic discrimination such as affirmative action qualify as systemic racism? Here in Canada there is the Employment Equity Act which requires federally regulated industries to favor women, people with disabilities, Aboriginal peoples, and visible minorities, or in other words, anyone but able-bodied light-skinned men. — NOS4A2
I agree that racism is not the primary problem facing the African American community, — Hanover
we have a system that favors blacks, as you need to have a certain the color of skin to obtain certain handouts paid for by all taxpayers, to say certain words that others can't, to ignore the plight of others in favor of the plight of "your people" as if "your people" matter more, and to make assumptions about individuals based on what clothes they wear (police uniforms) and the color of their skins (whites are racists). — Harry Hindu
Is it not also well known that blacks commit crimes at a higher rate than whites? — Harry Hindu
If it is okay for blacks to use the fact that some police are corrupt to then make the assumption that all police are corrupt, then how is it not okay for police to assume that blacks commit crimes? — Harry Hindu
So blacks are doing the same thing — Harry Hindu
— Harry HinduThe police murdered a human being.
— Harry Hindu
Agreed.
-Anaxagoras
The color and sex are irrelevant. — Anaxagoras
But we're talking about the present, not the past. I noticed that you didn't mention yourself here. If your parents and grand-parents still experience racism, then show us so that we can call out the racists together.According to you. The history of my parents, as well as my grand-parents and their parents and so on tell a different story. — Anaxagoras
People like you have an agenda, or else you would have also posted this link from the same sight:White lives do matter if we take a historical comparison of the judicial system in their conviction between white men and black men (and women). Not to mention who is killed more per capita (see:https://www.statista.com/chart/21872/map-of-police-violence-against-black-americans/). — Anaxagoras
Hmmm. It seems that you are forgetting all the crimes committed against blacks by other blacks, even in Africa before whites came with a need for slaves. It seems that you are cherry-picking your historical facts.If you want to go there sure per capita but it doesn't cancel out the greatest crimes committed by white historically both in the United States and across the world. Considering you call yourself "Harry Hindu" I would assume you know the well documented treatment of Indians from India and how the British during their tenure there created colorism among the Indian people but I digress. I fail to see the correlation between your mentioning of crime rate and what Baden was saying. — Anaxagoras
This is a common trope many white supremacists use to discount, deny, and deflect to the issues concerning police brutality. Those that ask "what about black on black crime?" I simply respond, there is no black on black crime just as there is no reverse racism. There is only crime, and there is only racism. Black people live in proximity to each other, like whites, and Hispanics and any other demographic. Blacks don't simply go out looking for other blacks simply because they're black, some commit crimes because black people live next to black people so that argument is played and flawed.
— Anaxagoras
"When an opponent of Black Lives Matters talks about “blacks killing blacks” it’s almost always to deflect attention away from police brutality. As if one issue makes the other more acceptable. — Anaxagoras
If you were an intelligent person then you'd realize that you are being a hypocrite. If it is wrong for me to making generalizations based on statistical evidence, then it is wrong for you to do as well when it comes to police and whites. Or are you saying that blacks aren't suppose to be held to the same moral rules as other human beings? We don't hold animals to the same ethical standards as humans. Is this what you are trying to imply when asserting the idea that blacks can make generalizations about the way people with a certain skin color think, or the way that certain people that wear certain clothes (police uniforms) think, but it's not okay for whites or cops to do that.So blacks are doing the same thing
— Harry Hindu
If you are an intelligent person please stop with the pluralism in your words. "Blacks" aren't a monolith we all don't think the same. Considering you're talking about generalizations to Baden it would behoove you to use phrases like "It would appear some blacks" or "some blacks" not "blacks" for starters. — Anaxagoras
But we're talking about the present, not the past. — Harry Hindu
I noticed that you didn't mention yourself here. If your parents and grand-parents still experience racism, then show us so that we can call out the racists together. — Harry Hindu
Calling all whites and cops racist just makes you a hypocrite while insulting the people you are trying to convince, and I'm not interested in promoting hypocrisy. — Harry Hindu
I am interested in promoting an end to hating people that are different than you, but being that isn't what you are doing, you are doing the opposite, then I'm not interested. — Harry Hindu
Notice how twice as many whites are killed by police than blacks. — Harry Hindu
Why wasn't anyone marching in the streets after just one white person was killed, — Harry Hindu
but only after a black person was killed. Essentially two whites were killed for every black and more blacks are killed by other blacks than killed by police or whites. This has been pointed out several times but is ignored. You need to be more intellectually honest if you expectothers to agree with you. — Harry Hindu
It seems that you are forgetting all the crimes committed against blacks by other blacks, even in Africa before whites came with a need for slaves. — Harry Hindu
If Black Lives Matter, then what about those blacks killed by other blacks which far outnumber the lives taken by whites or cops? — Harry Hindu
Black Lives Matter isn't interested in saving black lives. They are interested in promoting an ideology. — Harry Hindu
All Lives Matter, not just Black Lives. — Harry Hindu
If you were an intelligent person then you'd realize that you are being a hypocrite. If is it wrong for me to making generalizations based on statistical evidence, then it is wrong for you to do as well when it comes to police and whites. — Harry Hindu
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