It is not voluntary that I measure 6 ft, whether I measure or someone else does. — m-theory
I am 6 ft tall in the sense that this is what I will measure.
Others, nor myself, cannot simply decide that this is not what I will measure.
It is not subject to interpretation as far as the measuring mechanism is concerned. — m-theory
No I measure with a tape, which does not have a mind. — m-theory
You measure your height WITH YOUR MIND — intrapersona
Shouldn't we be discussing that Pussy IS Really a Source for Meaningful Life and Optimism? Sorry... I meant "relationships"? — intrapersona
Do you agree that tapes do not have minds and thus do not interpret what is being measured?
If so wouldn't you agree that is the very reason for using a tape, so that when I say 6 ft, and you say 6 ft, we can refer to something that is not just an interpretation but a thing which is consistently a given finite length? — m-theory
How, exactly, does "your mind" measure anything all by itself? — Bitter Crank
If your life depended on it.
Would you rather I simply guess what is 6 ft, or use a tape measure? — m-theory
The point I am making is that, for practical purposes, some things are less subject to interpretation than others.
The sooner you embrace this fact the better off you will be. — m-theory
The fact is you can't go beyond your subjectivity, and all you have are inferences about objectivity. That is A FACT m-theory, don't you get that? — intrapersona
It is not an objective fact.
After all you can't go beyond subjectivity remember. — m-theory
I can't prove it to you.
I am fine with that, as long as you agree that some things a true involuntarily and that it is practical to use measurements. — m-theory
So it it isn't a fact that you can't go beyond your subjectivity because you can't go beyond subjectivity? seems circular to me. — intrapersona
Like you said in this thread already, these are truths about subjectivity... as are all truths. In fact can't say anything about objective truth. — intrapersona
Then you can't say it is an objective fact that we can't go beyond subjectivity.
That would be self refuting. — m-theory
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