1. Our senses prove that some things are in motion.
2. Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion.
3. Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.
4. Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another).
5. Therefore nothing can move itself.
6. Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else.
7. The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum.
8. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God. — Aquinas
4. Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another).
5. Therefore nothing can move itself. — Aquinas
But if you're an atheist it doesn't follow you'd necessarily skip that. There are reasons other than religion for practicing celibacy.Ummm . . . skip — Terrapin Station
Ummm . . . skip — Terrapin Station
His concepts are rational, their result don't prove god. — Cavacava
If the concept can't be rationally circumscribed, you can use all the rational arguments at your disposal. — Cavacava
It was just a lighthearted comment. — Terrapin Station
What makes something rational in your view?
I am suggesting that "Rational Theist" is a contradiction in terms because I don't think that the Theistic belief can be reasoned. You seem to be arguing that Theism is rational because it employs rational arguments. — Cavacava
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What makes something rational in your view?
A thing that can be discussed, described, that judgements can be made about the thing based on what's known. — Cavacava
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