Lobbying by food industry? — Saurabh Bondarde
Are you saying it is always black and white and nothing in the greyscale? — Saurabh Bondarde
No, the problem you mention is too generic — Saurabh Bondarde
doesn't the ground level data of prevalence of (in this case) processed meat which is already identified and confirmed carcinogen, seem problematic? — Saurabh Bondarde
That's like saying - people love the thrill of speed, lets remove brakes from cars. The evaluation, assessment and guidance of governments/society should be more thoughtful - don't you think? — Saurabh Bondarde
If you are concerned about health at the personal level, stop consuming any processed/industrial food. — apokrisis
Sure, this only adds to my original point I think, except obesity is a symptom. Much like known carcinogens (like in processed meat) cause cancer, obesity surely could be tracked to increased sugar content in food processing or overall easy access to manmade high sugar foodstuff in the past century.Obesity is a worse actual cause of cancer. — apokrisis
Well, excess of anything is an issue for human body - I don't see what you want to convey here. Prevalence of processed meat, the ease of their access at insanely low prices in fast food joints seems like a huge issue.I'm not here to champion the cause of processed meat but being a "class 1 carcinogen" only means it definitely does cause cancer. It doesn't say whether that is a lot of cancer or just a little cancer. — apokrisis
Let me draw a picture on this analogy to what seems to be today's situation. We have many companies that are giving these airplane rides for you to jump. And overtime, to reduce their costs and maximize their market share, they are going into risky areas like choosing target jump spots like jumping over a volcano or over the poles. Data and stats (over multiple decades) are now showing that chances of survival of the person when they finish their jump and land at these places are slim; even if they survive they are hurt. Given this situation, what would you (say as a community) do on this situation? Do nothing? Ban? Something in the middle?I believe people should be allowed to jump out of airplanes if they make an informed choice to do so. That doesn't mean I'm opposed to parachutes. It does mean I'd oppose a government ban on recreational skydiving. I hope that analogy is clear. — fishfry
Do you mean you have a solution in today's age to live with self-made foodstuff/produce? — Saurabh Bondarde
This would likely increase the cost to the end customer slightly but would this not be a better option for the overall community? — Saurabh Bondarde
Let me draw a picture on this analogy to what seems to be today's situation. We have many companies that are giving these airplane rides for you to jump. And overtime, to reduce their costs and maximize their market share, they are going into risky areas like choosing target jump spots like jumping over a volcano or over the poles. Data and stats (over multiple decades) are now showing that chances of survival of the person when they finish their jump and land at these places are slim; even if they survive they are hurt. Given this situation, what would you (say as a community) do on this situation? Do nothing? Ban? Something in the middle? — Saurabh Bondarde
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