isn't anti philosophy a philosophy in itself?Philosophy is also the attempt to reason, and being open to reason. Where reason is rejected, unless on grounds of better reason, or ignored or dismissed out-of-hand, that is not philosophy. Indeed it is anti-philosophy and an enemy of philosophy, practitioners anti-philosophers and enemies of philosophy — tim wood
I like this! To eat all the thistles in the field. There are a lot of thistles, and thistles, one way or another, beget more thistles. So I think were in good supply at least for a while! .The goal of philosophy is honestly to destroy itself. — Philosophim
...But here also many who are not willing, those who just want to rant and are oblivious or hostile to argument or even sense. Those agenda-driven whose methods are mainly Prucrustean; Trumpian who insist their nonsense is sense and have zero interest in real sense; — tim wood
What kind of situation requires me to choose between the two? — Judaka
philosophy is not about reason — Judaka
And to use your analogy, it is a set of tools for dispassionately figuring out where you are — tim wood
This includes the ignorant and the stupid - I plead guilty to both, ignorance all the time and occasional stupidity. — tim wood
Philosophy is the job of defining identities in the world
on an objective level that can then be tested with science. — Philosophim
:up:I meant to say philosophy is about more than just reason. — Judaka
Especially online, philosophy (or, rather, philosophizing) seems medicine for the healthy (i.e. dialectical ones) and poison for the unhealthy (i.e. dogmatic herd). I find the temptation to name names - TPF members - nearly erogenous ... :sweat:I plead guilty to both, ignorance all the time and occasional stupidity. And these, ignorance and being stupid, our human condition, redeemed in the willingness to be corrected and the effort to learn. But here also many who are not willing, those who just want to rant and are oblivious or hostile to argument or even sense. Those agenda-driven whose methods are mainly Prucrustean; Trumpian who insist their nonsense is sense and have zero interest in real sense; woo-mongers interested in nothing but their own woo, impervious to reason. And those who do not understand, and aren't willing to. — tim wood
And the sense conditioned by the knowledge at the time, so when Thales says the world is made of water, or Heraclitus fire, these are appropriate for their respective times and purposes, and to be understood in their contexts. — tim wood
I side with Schopenhauer (pace Nietzsche) against this emphatically Hegelian nostrum.It seems like history repeats itself. Isn't that what philosophy is, to observe the repetitions in history? — Metaphysician Undercover
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