What makes people from wealthy, academical background lean left? — Ansiktsburk
What makes people from wealthy, academical background lean left? — Ansiktsburk
I am always curious as to what people mean by "socialist"?
Is providing basic health care to the population of your country "socialist" or is it responsible government? In either case sign me up.
Is free education for the most talented, motivated and capable regardless of race, sex, religion or socio-economic status "socialist" or an investment in the nations future? Again I am all for it.
It seems to me most cannot distinguish between "socialism" and "communism".
In terms of economies, central planning and state ownership of entire economies seem to have failed multiple times but there are other state interventions that would seem to be in the interest of both the state and the general welfare. — prothero
What makes people from wealthy, academical background lean left? — Ansiktsburk
The same arrogance that makes any socialist think they know best how to spend other people's money. — Tzeentch
This person is only concerned with their own welfare, and not that of the people around them. — Pro Hominem
Oh, I am concerned with the welfare of people around me. I just don't believe such concern should be forced upon me or anyone else through government.
You speak with the self-righteous ignorance of a true socialist. — Tzeentch
What makes people from wealthy, academical background lean left? — Ansiktsburk
I just don't believe such concern should be forced upon me or anyone else through government. — Tzeentch
I have observed this in young British men who are addicted to the sport of climbing. They pool their resources for housing and food and pursue their dreams. (However, my observations are dated having been from the 1980s. Thatcher's government might have made this less likely). — jgill
Let's say that having "compassion" for those who have less than you is much easier when you are in a better situation than said miserable. — Gus Lamarch
Myself being an in-betweener, voting rightish in scandinavian elections aka probably democrat in the US i still com from a working class background. My father made the journey to middle class. Me and my brother are the first ones going to university. Now I have come in contact with people from wealthy academical homes and surprisingly many lean to the left. Same when you read about eg Sartre. Also from a profoundly bourgeoisie home, but becomes a socialist.
In the same family you can see entrepreneurs and activists. What makes people from wealthy, academical background lean left? Very few people in my humble-house background in a not so good suburb became socialists.
I suspect that these were more likely middle-class than working class. My recollection is that even in the good old days, you needed to be pretty damn literate to negotiate the benefits system with any degree of success. I've known a few climbers too in N. Wales, and they climbed the slate quarries for fun, precisely because they were not the children of the quarrymen who climbed them with drills and explosives for a living. — unenlightened
Every society in the world contradicts this principle. Would you then try to enforce this principle on the societies of the world? Why do humans form governments in the first place? This is what the American constitution says: "...in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity." — JerseyFlight
No so my friend. I was not advancing an apologetic, I was citing a simplification of reasons to establish government. I don't have a problem with those principles, of course a conversation as to what they mean is necessary, but that is for another thread. My point was about the necessity of government — JerseyFlight
I suspect that these were more likely middle-class than working class — unenlightened
I've known a few climbers too in N. Wales, and they climbed the slate quarries for fun, precisely because they were not the children of the quarrymen who climbed them with drills and explosives for a living. — unenlightened
The same arrogance that makes any socialist think they know best how to spend other people's money. — Tzeentch
This person is only concerned with their own welfare, and not that of the people around them. — Pro Hominem
This is what the American constitution says: "...in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."
Without some kind of government it would be exceedingly unlikely that you would secure any of these things. — JerseyFlight
The key is to put the power of this apparatus in check, not to abolish it altogether (though I am totally open to serious conversations on the possibility, they just seem to me like romanticism). — JerseyFlight
When you are so confident about motivations, you should know something about the world to which you refer. — jgill
Revolt against their parents and everything they portray to stand for.What makes people from wealthy, academical background lean left? — Ansiktsburk
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