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Thanks for the channel recommendation, I subscribed.

Have you seen this one:

Thanks for sharing. Very objective and calm presentation. Disturbing to see how thin the arctic ice shelf was measured in 2020.

I havent seen that one yet. It looks good.

:up:

The NY Times (behind paywall) says Californians are now having trouble getting fire insurance. Eventually residents down the east coast won't be able to get flood insurance.

So the migration begins. Attempts to quantify the number of people impacted by a 1.5 degree increase in mean global temp seems futile now, but I imagine it was just a gesture.

For now the destination will be inward and northward.

The thing about denial is that it's meant to counter psychological fear, so we will likely see it hold on to the tune of all kinds of fantastic narratives, even in the face of desperate conditions. The real question, as Nietzsche knew so well, is how does one live among (and as) such an incompetent and primitive species?

I think some denial comes from a lack of trust. That's mentioned in the fact-checker site I posted in my second post. When CC advocates stray from the truth (as the British guy shown in the OP does occasionally), the effect can be counter productive.

I very much agree with what you say about Nietzsche. But: amor fati. Do you think about that?

amor fati — frank

too romantic for my nature.

Are you a nihilist?

not at all.

What purpose do you see in life?

What purpose do you see in life? — frank

I believe we can do better than this. Here the question doesn't escape subjectivity. I believe we can talk about purpose beyond the mere subjectivity of the individual, but am not going to do it in a thread on climate change.

Hey, you brought in Nietzsche. :razz:

But I understand. Thanks.

But I understand. Thanks. — frank

My position is quite developed here. I have sought out a debate with several prominent theists on the topic of Nihilism. The reason is because 1) I have formulated what I believe to be a strong position against it and 2) I want this position to be challenged by the strongest Nihilists we have in culture, and that means Christians. Needless to say, I was not surprised when the Christians I approached turned down the offer in what appeared to me as evasion. I have had many discourses with Christian professors over the years, and in nearly every case, they invent an excuse to leave the exchange. I have noticed that most people like discoursing with people that don't offer a substantial challenge to their position, this way the threat of refutation to their belief is minimized. I reject this bias form of logic, Mill tore it to shreds in the second chapter of his essay On Liberty.

I'd be a Christian nihilist if I were a Christian. Present your view to me if you want to. Shall I start a thread on nihilism?

I'd be a Christian nihilist if I were a Christian. Present your view to me if you want to. Shall I start a thread on nihilism? — frank

Thread on Nihilism, this is not for me. The Nihilism of Christians derives from the negation of positive knowledge outside their theological premises.

Ok.