Pro-fascist, anti-fascist.... both love the color black and silencing opposition. Horseshoe theory at it's finest. — BitconnectCarlos
All right-wing nutters agree with this.
American police, you mean?
Was this based on due process? I'm joking. Fascism doesn't do due process. Allow me to rephrase. Was this based on the testimony of people who murder black people? — Kenosha Kid
What fascism? — NOS4A2
Not “what is fascism”, but “what fascism”? — NOS4A2
I just think each instance where cops kill someone needs to be taken as an individual case and it's not fair to lump them all in as one so I get annoyed when people take every death-by-cop case under one umbrella. In those cases where cops did kill someone unjustly they should face criminal charges, not just be fired. — BitconnectCarlos
I just think each instance where cops kill someone needs to be taken as an individual case and it's not fair to lump them all in as one so I get annoyed when people take every death-by-cop case under one umbrella. — BitconnectCarlos
His murder of Danielson was captured on video. — BitconnectCarlos
and every anti-fascist is a criminal. — Kenosha Kid
And yet one guydiesis murdered during a BLM protest and every anti-fascist is a criminal. The hypocrisy is incredible. — Kenosha Kid
This is untrue. — Kenosha Kid
FTFY. I never said every anti-fascist is a criminal either so you're straw manning me now. — BitconnectCarlos
I just think each instance where cops kill someone needs to be taken as an individual case and it's not fair to lump them all in as one so I get annoyed when people take every death-by-cop case under one umbrella. — BitconnectCarlos
Lets start here: Do you believe the group is violent/promotes violence? Also if they're not violent, why in a crowd of hundreds did basically no one step in to stop the assault on Andy Ngo as he was assaulted by dozens of men dressed in head to toe in black? — BitconnectCarlos
You characterised the entire organisation as violent on the grounds of overbroad definition of fascism — Kenosha Kid
antifa is more of an ideology than an organized group — BitconnectCarlos
i characterise them as violent based on their beliefs and also actions — BitconnectCarlos
Since when has Antifa been active and what do you know of their history? What do they believe according to you? How often have they instigated violence? How often has that resulted in deaths? — Benkei
But overall, far-right extremist plots have been far more deadly than far-left plots (and Islamist plots eclipsed both) in the past 25 years, according to a breakdown of two terrorism databases by Alex Nowrasteh, an analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute.
White nationalists; militia movements; anti-Muslim attackers; I.R.S. building and abortion clinic bombers; and other right-wing groups were responsible for 12 times as many fatalities and 36 times as many injuries as communists; socialists; animal rights and environmental activists; anti-white- and Black Lives Matter-inspired attackers; and other left-wing groups.
Of the nearly 1,500 individuals in a University of Maryland study of radicalization from 1948 to 2013, 43 percent espoused far-right ideologies, compared to 21 percent for the far left. Far-right individuals were more likely to commit violence against people, while those on the far left were more likely to commit property damage.
President Trump spoke Tuesday at Trump Tower in Manhattan.Credit...Al Drago for The New York Times
“We find that the right groups and the jihadi groups are more violent than the left,” said Gary LaFree, one the researchers and the director of the University of Maryland’s National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism. The data set is in the process of being updated, so it does not reflect current state of extremism, Professor LaFree cautioned, but “in general, we’ve been seeing this fairly robust trend in right-wing cases.”
fear it’s more arbitrary than that. The term “fascist” is thrown about pre-emptively, before any fascism can be demonstrated. “Fascism” is thus used in the Orwellian sense, as a pejorative, but even worse, as a means to dehumanize and incite violence against political opponents. — NOS4A2
Keegan Hankes, a researcher and analyst at the Southern Poverty Law Center, previously told Rolling Stone. “It got a lot of media attention and it reinforced something the Proud Boys have pushed for years, which is the real threat is the violent left.”
The issue with this narrative is that this is verifiably not the case; though members of antifa have committed violent acts, that number is dwarfed by those committed by far-right extremists, says Hankes. That’s also the truth according to FBI director Christopher Wray, who has said that white supremacists constitute “the vast majority” of domestic terrorism threats. And when considering the very real, very immediate threat of far-right radicalization, promoting the conspiracy theories of a huckster like Ngo serves as little more than a distraction. — Rolling Stone
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