The discussion that I try to bring up with this paper is that if we really judge egoism in the right way, and not in the weakest and morally wrong way because we have a mentality that comes from the beginning of sedentary civilization, and that is of a out of disgust with our essence – egoism – many psychological and philosophical horizons can be reached, but that in the end, are left in the dark by prejudice.
We must also ask ourselves, why the "Academy" and all its renowned thinkers simply ignore the fact that the ego is one of the strongest candidates for an "essence" of humanity. — Gus Lamarch
Is this Human essence different to animal or living essence? — MSC
What else is essential for us besides Ego? What about it's counter tool Humility? — MSC
Your notion of natural egoism is a description of a fact and means, all living things, humans included, are naturally egoistic. We could say that egoism is our baseline attitude or approach to reality. — TheMadFool
Now, I'm not denying the fact of natural egoism; I'm only asking that you consider the possibility that it may not be a virtue. — TheMadFool
I explicitly focus only on humanity. I do not consider the essence of other animals or other beings in my article. — Gus Lamarch
The greatest virtue should be your own well-being. — Gus Lamarch
Even among humans there's a gradation in intelligence that matches the gradation in morality. Apart from the familiar trope of hyper-intelligent super-villains in comics and movies, most philosophers, scientists, mathematicians, most scholars, who make up the brains of society are, well, good people. When was the last time you heard of a scandal involving a philosopher? Even if you did, it's rare, very rare indeed.
The greatest virtue should be your own well-being.
— Gus Lamarch
At this point I'd like to call on stage the notion of altruism by which I mean taking an interest in the well-being of others. There are two forms altruism can take that don't differ in terms of outcomes - both forms manifest as being good to others - but they're different nonetheless - different in their rationale.
One form of altruism I'll refer to as my altruism - she is my wife, he is my friend, this is my family, community, town, city, state, country, world, and last but not the least, universe.. This type of altruism is a case of one's ego expanding itself to include other things like those I mentioned above. In essence this is still egoism because the other people/things you care about have value only because of their association to you.
The other kind of altruism is what I call your altruism - I am your husband, I am your friend, I am your son, I am your citizen, your tenant (of the universe). In yours altruism you submit yourself to someone else's ego and this type of altruism can be taken to the extreme - to the point where your ego completely disappears from the set of equations that describe reality.
Since the outcomes are indistinguishable betwen these two varieties of altruism, from a consequentialist standpoint, egoism seems compatible with virtue and morality and if you really look at it my egoism makes more sense than your egoism because in the former case everyone benefits but in the latter there's someone who doesn't, viz you. — TheMadFool
My point with this publication is to be approved and my article to be edited for the articles section of the forum. The discussion can start after that moment. — Gus Lamarch
Good Luck, It's a well-written piece of work and in the end I did agree with you — TheMadFool
Thank you - This publication was the first time I made it public, and I am honored to have the first positive feedback from someone other than from Brazil - — Gus Lamarch
For what it’s worth, I couldn’t make heads or tails of the OP until I read the wiki page on Stirner. — praxis
Many of the claims in your article are rather wild, disjointed, unsubstantiated and I was curious about what was behind them or inspired them. — praxis
I like Stirner's ideas about self-empowerment or actualization and his wariness of ideology. — praxis
Egoism needs to be balanced with compassion — Jack Cummins
I do agree that the fundamental basis is based on knowledge of oneself. This is the main problem with the selflessnes preached in some religious teachings. I was told by my parents and others to be selfless and I know that I made a lot of wrong choices based on this. — Jack Cummins
Also, with regard to empathy the particular basis of it is also founded on the ability to conceive of other people's minds. I did work with people on the autistic spectrum and read research in this area and one major idea was that people with autism have difficulty relating to others and lack empathy because they lack awareness of others' mental approach although I do think that this may well be due to deficiencies in ego development — Jack Cummins
As far as I can see, compassion boils down to being able to put yourself in another person's shoes - feel what s/he feels - and this ability is called empathy, it's the bedrock of the ubiquitous moral principle known as the golden rule.
Notice though that the measure used in compassion, empathy, and the golden rule, is the self. Compassion and its retinue of beliefs/emotions is all about getting in touch with the feelings of others. That, however, is restricted/privileged information - it's impossible to know what another person is actually thinking/feeling. The only option then is to imagine yourself into other people's situation and get an idea of what you yourself would feel in it. In other words, you're confined, even in the most selfless sense of true compassion, to your own ego. — TheMadFool
but didn't Nietzsche say all of this years ago? — charles ferraro
What exactly is different, or original, about what you're saying? — charles ferraro
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