Put this way, the choice is between: 1) assuming that the wheels of determinism have a little 'lash' between them (indeterminism), and 2) assuming the existence of billions of billions of billions of parallel universes out there... — Olivier5
Put this way, the choice is between: 1) assuming that the wheels of determinism have a little 'lash' between them (indeterminism), and 2) assuming the existence of billions of billions of billions of parallel universes out there... — Olivier5
Therefore, any determinist theory worth it's salt must consider theories and thus thoughts as meaningful and operative, causative. It must integrate thoughts as possible causes of events. That is to say, it must view our mental space as mechanistic and predetermined (of course, being deterministic), but an integral part of this cosmic cause and effect game of the universe. — Olivier5
Spinoza is right on that train of thought: determinist in a rational way, that is to say in a way that allow for reason to exist and to work. — Olivier5
Completely. It applies to any cogent process.you'd agree that what you've said of science applies equally to making a shopping list. — frank
Reason, and its effectiveness. Reason as a force in this world.Or is it reason? — frank
I dont know much about Spinoza. I think a key to understanding Schopenhauer is to see identity as fluid. You can identify with Cause. — frank
No, but I'm surprised that you don't. The argument you present is similar to what's known as the Clockmaker argument. It's a rationalist argument for God. — frank
I don't have any complete answer to that but here would be my take.Into that cavern of unknowns, you place volition as a necessary ingredient, yet we have no schematic for reason and meaning. How is volition supposed to relate to things like math, the ability to imagine and hypothesize, and logic in general? — frank
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