But there are various variables that influences the number it rolls, which we simply are unable to see. We assume symmetry, but how precise is that symmetry? — Jeremiah
For all we know the cycle of the moon, or the time of the day could affect the number it lands on. So is it our inability to see all the variables and how it plays out that makes it unpredictable? — Jeremiah
But what if we select something at random out of say 10 possible choices? Then we know what we are gonna get; we are gonna get one of the 10 possible choices, but it was still a random selection. Is that saying we have simply removed the decision form our hands, and allowed variables we can't see to make the selection? — Jeremiah
Nature doesn't produce dice. Only humans do. — apokrisis
Humans are part of nature so if they do, then nature does. — Jeremiah
No, I am not. I never made any such claim. — Jeremiah
For all we know the cycle of the moon, or the time of the day could affect the number it lands on. So is it our inability to see all the variables and how it plays out that makes it unpredictable? — Jeremiah
Is random a situation with various possible outcomes? — Jeremiah
Are there probabilities in nature, or is probability an epistemic concept that has to do with the motivations of an inquirer? I lean towards the latter answer, but there you go. — StreetlightX
So when one observes the world, how can one tell the difference between a random event and a spontaneous event? — apokrisis
A is spontaneous if it isn't caused by some B.
Do you think this is true, A comes out of nothing?. Can you point out any such B?
I don't believe in pure spontaneity, any uncaused b. It seems to me that what we describe as spontaneity is really a rearrangement of what already exists. — Cavacava
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