But the fatality rate wasn't the reason for measures. It was the impact on the healthcare system that required and continues to require measures. — Benkei
The fatality rate wasn't known and everybody who knew what he was talking about didn't talk about the fatality rate but case fatality rate. — Benkei
The problem in the end is no pre-existing immunity anywhere with a high reproduction rate. — Benkei
Yet we accept this "problem" every year with the flu and other coronaviruses. — Tzeentch
Turns out they made wrong assumptions, then. I don't fault people for making wrong decisions when there was no information available. Information is available now, and governments should start acting upon it instead of trying save their hides by pretending they haven't made some grave mistakes. — Tzeentch
The strain on the hospital was caused by symptoms too serious to leave untreated, with a 30% mortality rate for those admitted to the hospital and very long stays compared to a 6% mortality rate for the flu when admitted to the hospital and much shorter stays and much more cases requiring treatment than the flu as well. — Benkei
Where are you getting those figures from? — Isaac
A certain amount of people owe a certain amount of other people an apology. — Tzeentch
The strain on our medical facilities wasn't caused by covid itself, but by the disproportionate measures that were taken and never reversed. Hospitals are overworked because a large portion of their personnel is "treating" patients who have flu symptoms. — Tzeentch
No. There's a 60% mortality rate for any patients who end up on a ventilator for covid related lung damage.
It's bad. — frank
[for] COVID-19 patients on ventilators in existing ICUs with experienced intensive care teams ... the mortality rate "is in the mid-to-high 20% range...
That's only a bit higher than the death rate for patients placed on ventilators with severe lung infections unrelated to the coronavirus.
Not all ventilated covid people have lung damage.
Put your spectacles on, Isaaac. — frank
I think it was in jama, but with all your time in the ICU, I'm sure that number doesnt surprise you. — frank
for] COVID-19 patients on ventilators in existing ICUs with experienced intensive care teams ... the mortality rate "is in the mid-to-high 20% range...
Wait, what timeframe did this study cover? I'm in contact with people all over the country and nobody is getting results like that. — frank
No, none of these studies are from after July, — Isaac
you'd have to explain the much higher mortalities of studies which preceded them by only a month or so. — Isaac
Yet notice that the number of deaths hasn't gone up in similar fashion. — ssu
For the health sector covid-19 starts to be an old known friend. — ssu
The industry has been able to respond in half a year. — ssu
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