• jorndoe
    3.7k
    Donald Trump supporters rock back and forth while praying for his election win (Jacob Henry, Metro News, 6 Nov 2020)

    Weird. Maybe some folk are just goners and Trump managed to herd them in?
  • 180 Proof
    15.4k
    President-elect Biden.
  • _db
    3.6k
    It's finally fucking over, goddamn
  • jorndoe
    3.7k
    Trump's but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.
    — free adaptation from an old play

    I'm sure there'll be lots more strutting and fretting, sounds and fury. ;)
  • Maw
    2.7k
    Thank fucking Christ
  • Maw
    2.7k
    Lots of cheering in NYC
  • Tim3003
    347
    Hooray!
    But still want Arizona/Nevada called, to be safe, and make any legal action pointless..
  • _db
    3.6k
    Nevada just got called by AP.
  • Echarmion
    2.7k
    The New York Times also. I guess Breitbart will call it next.praxis

    Breitbart is calling the call. They have been avoiding actually making any statements, instead letting the Trump team supply theirs.
  • Baphomet
    9
    The problem is it is impossible to have 3 (or more) viable parties in America due to FPTP voting system. I'm all for scrapping it for something else so progressives don't always feel like they have to compromise with liberals in the Democratic party.
  • creativesoul
    12k
    I bet the casanovas who tried that line are laughing their asses off right now.

    "Hello ladies, ever lain with an angel of the Lord? :wink:"
    Michael

    The consequences of having been named "Michael". Even moreso if one's middle name is "Gabriel".

    Baby, I'm no angel...

    I just try my best to treat people with a certain modicum of respect and dignity upon first meeting them, was named by people like you who believe in angels and answered prayers.
  • fdrake
    6.7k


    ...

    The Orange Man fled across the desert and the Old Man followed.
  • Baden
    16.4k


    Boris is shitting a brick because Biden told him if he fucks Ireland over, no trade deal. Needless to say, Donnie won't like that a bit.
  • ssu
    8.7k
    ?

    When has Biden talked about Ireland to the UK Prime Minister?
  • Baden
    16.4k


    About a month ago, he put out a statement telling the UK no trade deal if they renege on their part of the deal with the EU that relates to Ireland. The House did the same.
  • Tim3003
    347
    So Trump sulks and plays golf as his defeat is announced. On his own course of course - he still rules there if nowhere else. And they ask if he'll make a concession speech for the sake of his own legacy and to ensure a smooth transition?
    He'll go down kicking and screaming and insisting he won. Grace, class, style, decency, statesmanship, sincerity, honesty: all great qualities and he lacks every one. Surely the least suitable person ever elected president.
    I'm waiting to see how he plans to find the 4 million votes he needs to rightfully win the popular vote too. In 2016 he set up a commission to find them. It was quietly wound down...
  • Wayfarer
    22.7k
    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump goes very quiet now. He's never broadcast from the loosers podium previously, and his only rhetorical skills are built around gloating, Take his ability to gloat out, and all that's left is lies, and nobody wants to hear a looser's lies, it'll just sound like, and be, whining. So, don't expect to hear much.
  • VagabondSpectre
    1.9k
    his only rhetorical skills are built around gloatingWayfarer

    His present level of sophistication is reminiscent of an upset toddler

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    "I WON THIS ELECTION BY A LOT, AND JOE BIDEN IS MEAN!"
  • BC
    13.6k
    I am very glad to see Donald Trump on the way out. Joe and Kamala will put on a more dignified show, which by itself will be a relief, but let's not get carried away.

    70,000,000+ votes were for DT. This was no watershed victory. Even if Biden & Harris had unbeatable Democrat majorities in the House and Senate, and a liberal Supreme Court, I doubt that anything remotely radical will be proposed. Contrary to Republican certainty, the Democrats are not an insurgent socialist party. Alas, but true.

    Covid 19? A lot of people are sick of the disease (so to speak), and unwilling to abide sensible public health measures. Thanks to Trump, the infection got out of control. It will be very difficult to get people to cooperate in suppressing it.

    The President, let us remember, is not in charge of the economy. Business is profit bound, and if environmental safety requires significant business losses, then the environment be damned. (Besides which, a lot of undoable damage has already been done.).

    The American economy is not in good shape, when you consider the long-term divestment in public services, infrastructure, health, and so on. There has been a long-term decline in wealth among most Americans. Biden can not throw a switch to change all that. The fact is that reinvestment in public service, infrastructure, health, education, environment, renewable energy, distribution of wealth--the myriad needs--is a 30 to 50 year project, not a single or double presidentiad period of time.

    Still, I'm glad Donald won't be occupying 1600 Pennsylvania much longer.
  • Wayfarer
    22.7k
    let's not get carried away.Bitter Crank

    Why not? Let's. The last four years have been a dystopian nightmare of mendacity and mediocrity which has cast a pall over the whole world. The fact that a simpl,e decent guy can beat that by popular vote shows that Amnerica lives!
  • Pfhorrest
    4.6k
    Why not?Wayfarer

    For me, it’s mostly a repeat of Obama. W was the worst president of my life by then, ruining things after the heydays of the Clinton 90s, and Obama’s election promised to make everything sunshine and rainbows again. But none of the W-era problems got fixed in 8 years, and only the smallest bone of progress got thrown our way with the ACA, and even that just barely.

    It’s great to celebrate the end of Trump, but it’s wise to actually hold Biden’s feet to the fire and let him know that merely not being Trump is not good enough, he needs to get on with actually fixing things and fast — plus, as Crank says, there’s a lot of things that simply aren’t in his direct power to fix.
  • Wayfarer
    22.7k
    he needs to get on with actually fixing thingsPfhorrest

    I expect that unless the Democrats actually do win control of the Senate - and it's still a possibiilty, athough slight - the GOP will continue as they did under Obama, to block, obstruct, frustrate, divide, undermine and deny.

    But at least we'll be free from the liar in chief.
  • Kenosha Kid
    3.2k
    merely not being Trump is not good enoughPfhorrest

    Not being Dubbya garnered Obama a Nobel prize...
  • Pfhorrest
    4.6k
    Not being Dubbya garnered Obama a Nobel prize...Kenosha Kid

    Yeah, and that was dumb too.
  • Harry Hindu
    5.1k
    But at least we'll be free from the liar in chief.Wayfarer
    As if no president except Trump has lied, and even acquired power by lying. :roll:

    You people's political party is no more than a religious cult. Democrats lie. Republicans lie. Thinking one does it more than another is just a reflection of your indoctrination.
  • Pinprick
    950
    Democrats lie. Republicans lie. Thinking one does it more than another is just a reflection of your indoctrination.Harry Hindu

    You may be right, but the issue isn’t necessarily the quantity of lies, but rather the harm, chaos, destruction, etc. that they cause. I think there is at least an argument to be made regarding whose lies have been worse. Also, doesn’t all thought reflect whatever system (political, philosophical, religious, cultural, etc.) the agent has bought into?
  • BC
    13.6k
    The fact that a simpl,e decent guy can beat that by popular vote shows that Amnerica lives!Wayfarer

    A lot of us Americans never doubted that America lives, even if the chief executive of the nation (along with a substantial following) was disgraceful. The President, no matter who he or she is, is not the nation. The Congress isn't the nation either. Neither are the courts or the military. I believe that this is true for all countries. Of course, that doesn't mean that "the people are all good". Sometimes the The People are mistaken, or a large share of them are.

    I've been reading 1877: Our Year of Living Violently, by Michael Bellesiles (2010) about the election, presidency, and socio-economic-political events during Rutherfraud B. Hayes' presidency -- 1876-1880. It was a disaster for many people--many whites, but especially for blacks and native Americans. A lot of slimy stuff happened during that presidentiad. Roughly a century was required to undo the damage, though really, for most of those years there was very little effort towards change.

    Republican obstruction during Obama's administration (and probably more of the same during this administration) will also take a long time to recover from.

    Through the 1870s, through everything that happened since regardless of who was in office, there was a core decent America which has abided decade after decade. This isn't a rose-colored view of the past. Decent people, in any country including in the United States, are quite capable of at least tolerating bad things being done to which ever group is the underdog. No countries excepted.
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