The received wisdom regarding the two notions - memory & imagination - is that they're not the same. — TheMadFool
It used to be in first person, now it's in third person. — fdrake
Jane: I know x happened because I have a memory of x. — TheMadFool
nobody has a memory before 8 years old. — Claude
In essence, as a purely mental effort, we can't distinguish between imagination and memory. Does this mean that our imaginations could actually be memories or, what for me is the more implausible alternative, that memories are imaginations? — TheMadFool
Does this mean that our imaginations could actually be memories — TheMadFool
Yeah it's fairly fundamental, the distinction between fact and fiction, and unfortunately, as a matter of psychological fact, it is quite easy to implant false memories.
The moral of this is twofold; stay away from psychologists, and make a habit of telling the truth, lest you come to believe your own bullshit (see also confabulation). — unenlightened
To have categories like false memories and confabulation suggests that there are true memories and my aim in this thread is to demonstrate that there can be no such thing at all - memory is indistinguishable from imagination insofar as (an attempt to) distinguishing the two is a purely mental exercise. — TheMadFool
Ok. But since I cannot tell that you said that or presented any argument for it, it's not worth responding. — unenlightened
You (to me): I know the image I have in my mind of an event dated 2/3/2020 actually happened because my cute little hand-held MCD has a record of it.
Question 1. Me: How do you know the MCD record on the event dated 2/3/2020 is correct (in the sense is a true record of an actual past event?
You: Because the event dated 2/3/2020 occurred
Question 2. Me: How do you know that the event dated 2/3/2020 occurred?
You: Because there's a record on the MCD.
Me: Go to Question 1 — TheMadFool
Is this not an argument? — TheMadFool
I don't know. Do you remember making an argument, or did you imagine making one? — unenlightened
I don't know. Do you remember making an argument, or did you imagine making one?
— unenlightened
That proves my point, doesn't it? :lol: — TheMadFool
memory is indistinguishable from imagination — TheMadFool
No, it presumes your point, and concludes that nothing can at all be known because knowledge can only be of the past. Accordingly it ceases to engage in the discussion. It constitutes a reductio ad mad folly argument. — unenlightened
No, it presumes your point, and concludes that nothing can at all be known because knowledge can only be of the past. Accordingly it ceases to engage in the discussion. It constitutes a reductio ad mad folly argument.
— unenlightened
Do you have a refutation for my argument? — TheMadFool
Did you make an argument? — unenlightened
The color red as a relevant factor in making the distinction between memory and imagination is, hence, null and void. — TheMadFool
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