So far, I've seen no coherent line of inquiry. — creativesoul
If you do not vote in an election, you are still affecting the outcome. So you are not really involved in a non action. — Monitor
In theory then you would have to apply non-action to everything you do. Can you really see that as the moral choice when you do it sometimes and don’t other times? — Brett
Are we as a society moving away from morality to ideology?
Are morality and ideology different.
Is the categorical imperative an ideological concept? — Brett
If it’s a moral decision then what would the Categorical Imperative be that makes it a moral choice, and therefore the right choice? — Brett
I think what I’m trying to do is work out what are we addressing social issues with, are we addressing them morally or ideologically? — Brett
In theory then you would have to apply non-action to everything you do. Can you really see that as the moral choice when you do it sometimes and don’t other times? — Brett
The most obvious maxim to satisfy the categorical imperative seems to be that, between reasonable adults, one should be allowed to marry whoever one wants. — Echarmion
Kantianism might be an ideology but it’s not a moral.Is Kantianism an ideology? — Echarmion
What defines an ideology in my mind is that it dominates your thinking, your worldview. — Echarmion
A Christian Fundamentalists who is opposed to gay marriage will obviously frame their decision in moral terms. For them it's a moral question with an obvious answer. — Echarmion
That seems reasonable, but if we apply it universally then it means an adult male can marry whoever he wants. It doesn’t say anything about age or consent. Nor does it address cultural differences, — Brett
Kantianism might be an ideology but it’s not a moral. — Brett
They may say they frame their their decision in moral terms, but is it really moral in Kant’s terms or just ideology. — Brett
I don’t know if a moral can be based on ideology. Is it still a moral decision? — Brett
It's fundamentally a personal stabdard, — Echarmion
But being moral us making the right decision, and, according to Kant, — Brett
I don’t know if a moral can be based on ideology. Is it still a moral decision?
— Brett
Do you mean here whether the decision happens in a moral framework at all or whether it is the correct decision given a specific framework (e.g. the CI)? — Echarmion
Except the categorical imperative. The categorical imperative is reason in action and this reason is universal. — Brett
Can ideology really create a moral position? — Brett
But acting in accordance with the CI is something you do, for yourself. It's not framed as a divine mandate you have to follow. Kant invites you to use it as a means to turn yourself into a moral, and therefore a free, person. — Echarmion
However to use a categorical imperative as a means turns it into a hypothetical imperative. A categorical imperative serves ends only. The moral crime of killing is not the means to be something, it is the end in itself. — Brett
Echarmion
But acting in accordance with the CI is something you do, for yourself. It's not framed as a divine mandate you have to follow. Kant invites you to use it as a means to turn yourself into a
moral ... person. — Brett
But when you say “ CI is something you do, for yourself” do you mean you choose it yourself or you do it not for yourself but for others. Does it make you a moral person because you do it for yourself? — Brett
I still want to find out if morality is different from ideology. What is ideology? What is the source of ideology? — Brett
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It's fundamentally a personal stabdard,
— Echarmion
I feel that this is one thing a categorical imperative is not. — Brett
the modern world and how we live in it and how we look at it according to Kant’s Categorical Imperative and how that’s applied. — Brett
An ideology is a collection of ideas that is weaved so tightly that it becomes an overwhelming framework for everything you think and do. This is usually a bad thing, but equality, freedom, humanity, are also ideas. — Echarmion
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