The classic image of South America, Asia, and Africa dug up, and North America and Europe covered in plunder seems to ignore that economic growth in Europe much more the cause of colonization than vice versa. — Count Timothy von Icarus
The colonized and the colonizer are quite different, typically. With exception of perhaps prior colonies like Canada, Australia or the US. I was thinking about the difference between First World countries that a) had colonies and those that didn't have them. And especially those that did fight against the freedom movements in their colonies (UK, France, Portugal) and those that didn't do much (perhaps the Netherlands). War is a costly endeavor, which is why now days European powers typically fight wars through NATO.x% GDP on military spending doesn't translate too well to its effect on the long term differences in total GDP per capita between colonised and coloniser countries though does it? — fdrake
and those that didn't do much (perhaps the Netherlands). — ssu
Well, people who were themselves put into concentration camps hardly aren't the first choice for moral condemnation in my view.And then there's the Boers... — Benkei
And don't think it won't have consequences.Yes, when the US leaves some area the US leaves some area. That’s the entire point. — NOS4A2
Why is that? It certainly took over a lot of area from sovereign peoples, extracted resources, and peopled them with its own demographic. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Russia not an imperial power either? — Count Timothy von Icarus
You don't notice just how illogical you are.The US needs not lose its “status”, nor must it remain absent from world affairs while retreating from the mess of its former interventionist policies, which arguably exacerbated the problems to begin with. Afghanistan and Iraq were deadly mistakes. And, as critics of Trump’s foreign policy often fail to mention, until Trump came along ISIS was marauding across the land with near impunity. No amount of hopey-changey rhetoric or Biden’s finger-wagging could stop any of that. — NOS4A2
(see here)Whoever carried out the hit, it is all but certain that Trump gave it the nod. Once again, he is trying to put a stamp on the Middle East that Biden will find difficult to scrub out. His actions would hardly be without precedent; Obama, Clinton and Reagan all made last-gasp moves in the region to shape it in their image.
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