It took me a goodly amount of time (I don't know how long, precisly or approximately) to realize others think in language. — god must be atheist
Suppose there was a boy who was born and raised in a secluded family in which they used no form of language both spoken and written to communicate. How would that boy think?? In my meditations much of my thoughts come in the form of words and usually speaking them to myself with my own voice. Perhaps that boy would think in terms of images?
An example would be "I like to eat doughnuts" rather than the boy thinking of those words associated to that statement he would think of an image of himself enjoying his doughnut. Answer these questions below. — Thinking
I don't think in words or language — god must be atheist
I think in spoken words, but generally not in written words. I can think in written symbols to an extent, like numerals, but isn't this just a way of thinking in images? Come to think of it, isn't thinking in spoken words just a way of thinking in aural images? — Metaphysician Undercover
Do you think in images, then? Or is there just no internal conversation? Do you have to always use an external medium? I tend to work with people who need visuals to understand. It drives me a little bit insane, as I'm not a very visual person. — Marchesk
I don't think in words or language
— god must be atheist
How do you ever decide what to say or write? — Metaphysician Undercover
We all think in images, or sensory impressions. — Harry Hindu
We all think in images, or sensory impressions.
Words are scribbles and sounds. To say that you think in words is to say that you think in scribbles and sounds. — Harry Hindu
We all think in images, or sensory impressions.
Words are scribbles and sounds. To say that you think in words is to say that you think in scribbles and sounds. — Harry Hindu
Here you demonstrated perfectly what you need ot deny: that words (scribbled or uttered) have meaning.↪god must be atheist All sensory impressions have meaning to them. Red of an apple means the apple ripe. Hearing you speak English means you know how to speak English. The smell of coffee means coffee is being brewed, etc. — Harry Hindu
All you are saying is that we use images and sounds to refer to other sensory impressions which can include other visuals and sounds, or even other scribbles. — Harry Hindu
I never denied scribbles have meaning. I said scribbles are images and images have meaning.Here you demonstrated perfectly what you need ot deny: that words (scribbled or uttered) have meaning. — god must be atheist
Would you have understood anything I said if you never experienced the visual of the redness of an apple?You, yourself, explained what the red of the apple is, without presenting an apple. You presented to me on sensory idea of "red", only verbal idea of "red". Therefore words have meanings, and we think in words. — god must be atheist
If you want to point to where you said more than that, I'd be happy to address it, but it seems to me that you are the one not reading posts, and just providing knee-jerk comments to things you think I said, but didnt.I am saying much more than that. If you did not read those parts, or refuse to comprehend what I wrote, that's not my fault in presenting my opinion. — god must be atheist
However without that spoken word thinking I would imagine you would only think in images. — Thinking
From conceptual thougths into language. — god must be atheist
When my mind is at rest, so to speak, I don't have images. No images, no language, only meaning, and concepts. One concept bears another. I often try to pin myself down on catching myself what I am thinking of at the moment -- impossible. There is no dialogue in my head, in my mind... just one concept morphing into another. A linear monologue, with tons of lateral jumps, of course. — god must be atheist
but the thinking is also continuously establishing new relations between the images (symbols) and committing them to memory. — Metaphysician Undercover
This does not give credit to humans' ability to conceptualize things. I believe that when someone says he thinks in words, he thinks in words. Early thoughts may have formed as images or imprints of sensory perceptions. But constant use of them and constant associating them to concepts and words made the associtations automatic, and eventually the associations squeezed out, so to speak, the purely sensory impressions. — god must be atheist
Verbal Language is an artifact. Even animals who can communicate ideas, orally or gesturally, must translate their internal flow of non-verbal feelings into forms that can be expressed symbolically. When your dog or cat paws at you to get your attention, they are expressing a feeling common to mammals. Feelings (emotional urges) are the common proto-language among higher animals. Even dreams must be translated from abstract subjective feelings into concrete objective words or gestures. But we are so used to it, that we are barely aware of the mental work required for communication. Except of course, when we try to express our vague personal feelings in someone else's language, or in precise philosophical terms. :nerd:I don't think in words or language, and I don't dream in words or language. — god must be atheist
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