Outlander
Brett
The truths and/or morals we create and appreciate ourselves. — Outlander
Sir2u
For all those avowed atheists out there; if God and the beliefs in God’s existence and actions have no validity, no claim to truth, then what truth have you replaced them with? — Brett
Brett
Sir2u
Over time more and more people have come to believe and insist that God does not exist. Some people have grown up with idea of God’s existence then repudiated, for whatever reasons, that possibility. — Brett
It’s hardly likely, though maybe possible, for those people to then exist in a vacuum. So what instead have they filled that vacuum with? — Brett
Brett
Unanswerable because I do not understand the terms. — tim wood
Sir2u
No, I mean truths.
If, however, “atheism” is defined in terms of theism and theism is the proposition that God exists and not the psychological condition of believing that there is a God, — Brett
Then what is that? — Brett
Sir2u
Yes, for believers God is a fact. — Brett
I don’t know how they would have come to that conclusion. Would that belief be from birth? — Brett
Brett
So it is a belief. Not all beliefs are truth. — Sir2u
How many of them would you consider to be facts. — Sir2u
Sir2u
Brett
There are people that are never given religious education, that would mean that they never had what you call truth. — Sir2u
But you have failed to take into account that many people that are atheists never believed in any god, would that mean that they never had any truths? — Sir2u
I don’t know how they would have come to that conclusion. Would that belief be from birth? — Brett
Brett
What is atheist?
Do you even know? — tim wood
No, I do not believe that any even half-way intelligent half-way educated person can be an atheist. Depending on just what is meant by "atheist." — tim wood
Jmd123
Sir2u
This was in response to your post about how many people that are atheists never believed in God. If they were raised from being very young without any knowledge of God that would not make them atheists, it would just make them ignorant of the idea of God. — Brett
Brett
But this discussion is getting boring without having the proper data necessary to continue. You said the the truths about god need to be replaced by something, so exactly which truths are you talking about? Maybe this will help to decide what could possibly replace them. — Sir2u
You said the the truths about god need to be replaced by something, — Sir2u
Brett
What is god? That's the question. — tim wood
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