In the end, we regret everything that didn't happen and everything that did happen. — Wittgenstein
Well, as of your reading of this post, you're advised to manage your affairs so as to avoid any need to regret. Unless your regret is pathological, which I think you'd agree is a whole other problem.
If life didn't end , we wont need to do philosophy anymore in order to make sense of our failures. — Wittgenstein
we are afraid of turning our life into a single big failure. — Wittgenstein
Feeling like there is meaning in life requires feeling like you matter to the world, like you are valuable. — Pfhorrest
They claim getting laid ( not by escorts but someone you love ) is a fundamental need of life, similar to getting food and having a shelter. Since their basic needs are not met, they tend to give up on life and don't see a purpose in developing their personhood. — Wittgenstein
Those problems include looking ugly , mental disorder, terrible childhood or just bad luck ( being born as an ethnic in a dominant white culture, being born in a poor family etc.) — Wittgenstein
While growing up, they were told about life getting better as you grow up or how consuming " this and this " will fill the hole in your heart, your craving for living a meaningful life. They think it's all a scam. — Wittgenstein
Here's what you do, you ask them this simple question: — BitconnectCarlos
If they answer "yes" to the fate question you've got to wonder why fate has conspired to punish them in particular and what the story behind that is. — BitconnectCarlos
You're not going to get to any entrenched incels with reason. — Echarmion
Fate here is genetics, and genetics has randomly given them the "never get loved" ticket in the genetic lottery. There was nothing they could have done (isn't that nice?) and there is no way out. — Echarmion
By the way, I think the most interesting topic with ties to philosophy and incels is probably how online dating, or perhaps more accurately dating between people who are always online, is changing the way relationships form, develop and end. — Echarmion
Those problems include looking ugly , mental disorder, terrible childhood or just bad luck ( being born as an ethnic in a dominant white culture, being born in a poor family etc.) — Wittgenstein
Western youth is taught from an early age to have an unhealthy relationship with sex. "Incels" are one of its many outgrowths. Lets not judge them too harshly.
Feeling worthless is an impediment to success in any of these endeavors. The challenge then is to find another source of self-esteem, both instrumentally as it will help you to better achieve all those things, and intrinsically as a substitute for the self-esteem that comes from those things and (largely) makes them valuable to begin with.
I don't see what is wrong with seeing things from their perspective. If they consider themselves as victims, then we should try to see whether it is true or not. — Wittgenstein
Maslow's hierarchy of needs would make it difficult for incels to reach selfhood after skipping the essential physiological needs and in general ,love/belonging needs at the lower order of pyramid. — Wittgenstein
Are you trying to imply something ? — Wittgenstein
If you are calling incels self-entitled jerks then you don't have anything useful to contribute here. I am interested in something else. — Wittgenstein
By women? My heavens they must be truly awful and beyond rehabilitation to be rejected by women. The best I have ever done was being rejected by one woman at a time.you have 1000/10000/? or more incels rejected by women. — Wittgenstein
Me too. I have evolved to an understanding. Guys know themselves and know sex. Guys don't know girls (and never have and never will). Girls sometimes know guys, but girls rarely know themselves and rarely know sex. And it's interesting that a cock-up is a screw-up is reference to both sexual readiness and disaster. No wonder the urge is so strong, and needs be to get through so much difficulty.They scared the crap out us frankly. — Book273
Quick question before I get into it: How many of us posting on here about incels being such and such or having this or that perspective either are, or have been, an Incel? — Book273
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