In my DIKW definition framework, I expect generating the Platonic Forms are more about knowledge than information, as they are generic (ideal) knowledge about how to structure and constrain and use a category of imperfect yet very similar objects. Thus, Platonic Forms are very much like ideal models and general templates of expected/experienced objects.Information is Generic in the sense of generating all forms from a formless pool of possibility : the Platonic Forms. — Gnomon
OK. Sorry for intruding on your thread. I suspect that you are more likely to get the kind of feedback you're interested-in on a science forum.that is fine, and could be interesting to me if useful and applicable to human thought or reasoning. — Sir Philo Sophia
Yes. That's why I give my own custom definition. The term "genetic information" would completely miss the point of my useage. So I adapted "generic" to my purposes, despite it's common meaning of "general, common, & non-specific. It's a couple of other synonyms that hit the target for me : "universal, all-inclusive & all-encompassing". https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/genericI stil can't see how 'generic information' is a meaningful concept. In your schema, 'enformation' is just the name you give for the place in metaphysics formerly occupied by religious concepts, such as spirit, chi, pneuma, and so on - you say so yourself. — Wayfarer
But "information" is "knowledge" . . . and much more.In my DIKW definition framework, I expect generating the Platonic Forms aremore about knowledge than information, as they are generic (ideal) knowledge about how to structure and constrain and use a category of imperfect yet very similar objects. Thus, Platonic Forms are very much like ideal models and general templates of expected/experienced objects. — Sir Philo Sophia
But "information" is "knowledge" . . . and much more. — Gnomon
Because the agent must invest its energy and time into acquiring and transforming The information and knowledge in its own terms and in its personal Life path. So, if the agent does not have a good expectation that the knowledge would be practical then it would invest last effort/time in pursuing or integrating such knowledge. We do this all the time, so it is kind of obvious to me.Why would the agents own expectations be a good indication of the practicality of knowledge? — Average
What guarantees that the agent isn’t misguided or simply deceived? — Average
If the expectations are unfounded and they are ultimately baseless what good do they do as a metric? — Average
So, you have your own private definitions. As do I. But I don't reject the common definitions. I just look at Information from a different supplementary perspective, which is more philosophical & metaphysical, than scientific & physical.I do not agree with those dictionary definitions. It, as with the interpretations you proffer, do not account for the logical Distinctions and Transformations, which must occur To get from one cognitive step to the next. In your framework everything is Information So you miss and lose what operations must be performed And what cognitive structures/dynamics/Algorithms are needed To make and use those transformations. — Sir Philo Sophia
Nevertheless, if you can dumb it down for me, maybe I can follow the logic of your topic. If not, I'll bow out — Gnomon
I don’t think it would be excessive if I asked for English — Average
OK. I can see that this thread is way above my pay grade. Sorry for butting-in. :smile:It is just not useful (at least to me) in the realm of delineating and creating all the (mental/cognitive/algorithmic) transforms that go from measured scalar values to the transcendental wisdom achieved bymetacognition. — Sir Philo Sophia
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