You wish to label me alt-right even though I say I despise the alt-right because you think it sounds right. — Judaka
It seems entirely plausible that there could be two communities which face essentially the same problem like bad roads or littering or something like that. — BitconnectCarlos
You'd help out your own community first, and then it's fine to go off the help the other, right? And this is the right thing to do, right? — BitconnectCarlos
At the same time, he warns women who would attempt to compete on the boy's own turf, in order to achieve professional careers, that they are bound to become very depressed or even suicidal in later life. He likes to provide examples from his clinical experience of career women who became very depressed because they lost their opportunity to flourish through raising children. — Pierre-Normand
Perhaps it's telling of our times that Peterson is referred to being a philosopher.Probably our main disagreement comes from the fact you think you're elevating the public perception of JP rather than slandering him horrifically. Who would want to listen to JP after reading your "take", I have no idea, but if you say in your opinion, you're helping to make him look good, what can I say, agree to disagree lol. — Judaka
I do not want to believe it although it is palpable: the great majority of people lacks an intellectual conscience. … I mean: the great majority of people does not consider it contemptible to believe this or that and live accordingly, without having first given themselves an account of the final and most certain reasons pro and con, and without even troubling themselves about such reasons afterward.
Well, the placebo effect is real.What does believing that a meat diet cured their problems say about their critical ability? — Banno
I think Nietzsche explains this perfectly:
I do not want to believe it although it is palpable: the great majority of people lacks an intellectual conscience. … I mean: the great majority of people does not consider it contemptible to believe this or that and live accordingly, without having first given themselves an account of the final and most certain reasons pro and con, and without even troubling themselves about such reasons afterward. — deusidex
Did you just parrot back the very same thing I just said to you? — Judaka
Call me a fascist, alt-right, racist, I don't care. — Judaka
My argument for why you're most likely an intersectional feminist or at a bare minimum, closely ideologically aligned is not unreasonable. — Judaka
All intersectional feminism says is that people experience different levels of privilege and discrimination based on their various political and social identities. — Judaka
My problem with it is that we don't want to focus on seeing a person through these most visible identities, using our assumptions about their levels of privilege or discrimination to prejudice against them. — Judaka
This is the evidence that links you to intersectional feminism — Judaka
I've seen you debate people you disagree with politically on this forum, it's not a pleasant sight. — Judaka
Incorrect. Intersectional feminism is somewhat more specific, clue's in the name. — Kenosha Kid
Studies support this, though, e.g. Oral contraceptive use in women changes preferences for malefacial masculinity and is associated with partner facial masculinityOr this stuff: "You can test a woman's preference in men. You can show them pictures of men and change the jaw width, and what you find is that women who aren't on the pill like wide-jawed men when they're ovulation, and they like narrow-jawed men when they're not, and the narrow-jawed men are less aggressive. Well, all women on the pill are as if they're not ovulating — Benkei
Meanwhile, on the other side, Peterson is a nazi, white supremacist, racist, sexist, evil, bitter professor. — deusidex
Studies support women changing preferences in how men look. The link between jaw width and aggression is totally spurious. That's driven by the fact we're no longer hunter-gatherers chewing hard, uncooked foods. — Benkei
Perhaps it's telling of our times that Peterson is referred to being a philosopher.
Anyway, I have become extremely sceptical to anyone who today is a critic of some person. Now days there simply is no objectivity or any will to try to understand the other. As a Finnish saying goes: it's like "The Devil reading the Bible". It gets interest, clicks. The critic has either an agenda or simply promotes his views to his or her own tribe of similar thinking people. Perhaps it is far too confusing for people if you agree with one thing and disagree with another thing that some person has said. That seems lax, weak. Nope, tribalism has to dominate! You are either for or against and either with us or against us!
The solution? Listen to the people yourself and make up your mind without the people who have chewed the message for you before hand. — ssu
I didn't say you were alt-right, I said you seemed to be making the exact same kind of bullshit argument that I'd previously bemoaned wherein someone "left" can be described as anything you like as long as you consider it also "left". The example with JP being that anyone who is a feminist is automatically a Marxist. The example with you being that anyone who's anti-fascist and anti-racist is automatically an intersectional feminist. — Kenosha Kid
You're obviously not going to justify your crap arguments. Up to you whether you want to debase yourself. — Kenosha Kid
Given the context, it seems more like your problem is one of hypocrisy, in which privileged people should go unchallenged when saying that e.g. racism, misogyny, homophobia don't exist, that whatever conspiracy theories they're peddling to explain data to the contrary ought to be respected as facts, and that anyway those facts don't count. — Kenosha Kid
Incorrect. Intersectional feminism is somewhat more specific, clue's in the name. — Kenosha Kid
I'm sorry that that's what displeases you rather than the racism I object to. Sorry, but not shocked. — Kenosha Kid
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Interesting. I wonder if it is the media, internet and social media which have created this environment or just the politicisation of everything? When you put it like that, I probably should have just avoided this thread altogether. — Judaka
No, the point is that even the same woman can have different preferences in men, depending on whether she uses hormonal contraceptives or not.Quite right, the prevalence of a narrower jaw did not arise after the invention of the contraceptive pill: — Kenosha Kid
Quite right, the prevalence of a narrower jaw did not arise after the invention of the contraceptive pill: it arose after the advent of agriculture. Once again, agriculture screwed us, this time with dentistry bills. — Kenosha Kid
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