Besides the illusion of these connections there is nothing making one of these states more “you” than any other state would be. — Sadhguru
Most theories of Karma & Heaven envision some sort of cause & effect Justice in this or another world, but not necessarily in your current lifetime. Since human laws and judgments are notoriously biased, throughout history ethical thinkers have seen the need for super-human Justice. Most cultures have imagined wise & infallible gods of Justice, yet accepted that such perfect equity was seldom seen in reality. So, the ultimate righting of wrongs was typically deferred to an after-life of some kind. Unfortunately, such otherworldly justice had to be taken on Faith in seers & sages with access to the occult realms.Could karma be more like the religious interpretations? Something not there because of people, but something that is embedded in existence itself? — Mind Dough
Faith - the belief in something onedesiresbelieves is [or could be] true, despite there being no evidence of it, or even evidence that contradicts its existence. — Philosophim
And people make conception of you based on social group you are in, and assume that you gathered bad karma to be born in low class, what can be used as a tool to marginalization, and mainly lower classes suffers from this.
So karma thinking can lead into dangerous ideas. — batsushi7
My thoughts are that karma ought never to be the source of blame or of resignation. If you say 'it's their karma' or 'it's my karma' to rationalise misfortune or place blame, then it's a pretty repugnant theory. — Wayfarer
Yes, karma can manifest in the present life - one's actions today producing consequences the next day or a month, or years later — TheMadFool
Personally, I find it easier to believe in karma than reincarnation, because I can watch it occur. I think I must have a heavy karmic debt because I sometimes encounter all kinds of misfortunes, but they do often feel like lessons the universe, or some higher power, is giving me. Of course, it may all be my imagination.
I would like to believe in reincarnation too. At times I do and at other times I don't. Having one life and one body is limiting. — Jack Cummins
aspect which you discuss is a fairly contentious area by tho — Jack Cummins
However, one aspect which you discuss is a fairly contentious area by those who believe in karma. That is whether karma is a natural law of justice. You say, 'you make a choice and later the universe alters your fate in order to either reward you or to punish you.' The question is it really about reward and punishment as such? It can be argued that karma is simply cause and effect, as expressed in the principle of you reap what you sow. — Jack Cummins
Please note, the familiar western notion of what goes around comes around isn't karma. Yes, karma can manifest in the present life - one's actions today producing consequences the next day or a month, or years later - but karma is usually used to refer to moral causality that carries from one life to another via reincarnation. — TheMadFool
I don't think that you are correct to say that there is a clear distinction between the idea between the Western idea of what goes comes around in Western thought and the idea of karma. The Western idea is based primarily on the Biblical notion of reaping what you sow. This can be connected to the belief in reincarnation held within the esoteric tradition of Christianity, which has been repressed, but still influential nevertheless. — Jack Cummins
Karma as retribution is relevent here. Karma is just as relevant to the single life as it is to the reincarnated, since the dread of existence cannot be measured subjectively. And since karma relates directly to the subject, no measure of worldy diversion can deter the karmic fate of any subject. — Merkwurdichliebe
Perhaps I am greedy for wanting more lives and bodies. And that would incur more suffering. So I don't know what the antinatalists would make of my wish to be reborn into the world. — Jack Cummins
What is the source of your ideas about karma?I recently wrote an article about karma and I am curious about your thoughts on it. — Mind Dough
Perhaps I am greedy for wanting more lives and bodies. — Jack Cummins
What about eternal return? — Merkwurdichliebe
What is the source of your ideas about karma? — baker
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