Likewise Ican see people avoiding pork, going to church, praying, doing charity, all of which are detectable, measurable effects of God. Therefore, god exists — TheMadFool
I take a stone, weigh it and measure its dimensions or throw it at a window. There is an effect - the scale moves, the window shatters. — TheMadFool
They didn't find any but had they found some they would have concluded ''ether exists''. — TheMadFool
I choose to test the hypothesis that god exists by searching for the effects of god. I find plenty as mentioned above. Now am I not right in concluding that god exists for I find many many effects? — TheMadFool
If I have the flu, then I have a sore throat.
I have a sore throat.
Therefore, I have the flu.
But having the flu is not the only cause of a sore throat since many illnesses cause sore throat, such as the common cold or strep throat.
You have not yet defined the god you are trying to prove exists, however it appears to be monotheistic... So which "god" are you trying to prove? One of the Greek gods? One of the Viking gods? All have given their followers art, music and military succes — Accursius
I once wrote a poem about a storm because of the sheer ferocity. So this must prove the existence of the storm? I have also read books that involved elves, goblins, dwarves, magicians and demons. Does this mean that all these things also exist? If so, I am excited. Bring it on. — Accursius
I'm giving you all scientific proof of God(s) existence. — TheMadFool
To clarify, a piece of stone ''exists'' because it has an ''effect'' on other objects that exist e.g. you can break your neighbor's window with it, — TheMadFool
I'm giving you all scientific proof of God(s) existence. — TheMadFool
Ether or better I declare the existence of a particle ''foolon'' that has no mass, no charge and cannot be detected by any known scientific instrument.I don't agree with that requirement — Terrapin Station
you can't conflate epistemology (re how you know something) with ontology (re what there is). — Terrapin Station
Science is empirical. Empirical claims are not provable — Terrapin Station
Ether or better I declare — TheMadFool
I'm actually staying true to the scientific principle of verifiability of a hypothesis. — TheMadFool
What do you do with empirical claims? — TheMadFool
You're apparently claiming that those two are the same thing. What is the basis of that claim? — Terrapin Station
What do you want to do with them? You can do all sorts of things with them. You just can't prove them. At best you provisionally verify them in lieu of falsification. — Terrapin Station
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