You mistake the symptom for the ailment. — thewonder
I have philosophical views, on a range of subjects, of my own devising. They are informed by extensive reading; written in relation to modern western philosophy since Descartes, and intended to save the world by providing for a long, prosperous, sustainable future. — counterpunch
I'm the one with something important to say. — counterpunch
This is about how a Labour Party - built to represent the working class relative to the owners of the means of production, have become media luvvies, and gone into identity politics, and cut all ties with its working class roots - leaving us completely unrepresented. — counterpunch
For example, the Northern Powerhouse amounted to the renovation of two train stations. Did Labour kick up a fuss about that? If they did, I didn't hear it. Did you? — counterpunch
No, I can't — counterpunch
Why would they? — Michael
What are you dribbling about? Political correctness IS identity politics. You lump people into groups based on their arbitrary characteristics. What you don't do is treat people as individuals - regardless of race, gender, sexuality, nor respect their freedom of conscience and freedom of speech. — counterpunch
Because of the BBC news story I posted. Was that not clear? Rhetorical question. There's no need to answer. You're obviously not sincere. — counterpunch
Right, because prior to 2015 - everything was peachy in England's "former industrial and coastal towns" - was it? Labour wouldn't know would they? — counterpunch
So, when the Tories promised a Northern Powerhouse and failed to deliver, why didn't Labour hold them to their promises? Why did Labour allow the Northern Powerhouse to amount to two train stations getting a coat of paint?
Jeremy Corbyn has reiterated Labour’s pledge to commit at least £10bn to the proposed Northern Powerhouse Rail project.
Speaking during a day spent visiting cities along the potential route, the Labour leader said building the route would go some way to rebalancing years of under investment in northern rail infrastructure.
Criticising the ‘‘utter disregard’’ the government has for northern commuters, Corbyn met passengers as he travelled from Liverpool Lime Street to Manchester, and then on to Leeds and Hull.
Labour said analysis of the latest Department of Transport figures revealed the proportion of passenger trains arriving on time in the north has dropped from 91.5% in 2010 to 87.8% now. Meanwhile, the number of trains cancelled or significantly late has jumped 50% in the same period and overcrowding has increased 25% on the 10 busiest routes in the region.
Corbyn said: “The rail chaos unleashed by the Tories on the North of England shows their utter disregard for people living in the towns and cities in the North.
“For decades northern communities have received only a fraction of the transport investment that is spent in London and the South East. Labour will put this right by building Crossrail for the North, connecting the great cities of the north of England to unlock huge untapped potential.”
assuming they were aware of the problem in 2015, why is that a reason to oppose Northern Powerhouse? — Michael
The only quote you could find was at the launch of two rival policies, by two parties grubbing for votes, and both policies ultimately amounted to nothing. — counterpunch
but I am myself, a straight white male, with interests I refuse to put second to the interests of others just because they're black, gay, women or like to pop on a frock at weekends and call themselves Veronica! — counterpunch
but I am myself, a straight white male, with interests I refuse to put second to the interests of others just because they're black, gay, women or like to pop on a frock at weekends and call themselves Veronica! — counterpunch
Oh dear. I see why you feel people don't want to engage with you. — Uglydelicious
Capitalism is necessary to a sustainable future? How do you figure that? Doesn't capitalism rely on consumerism and necessarily foster an objectification and commodification of natural resources, and unnatural resources? This seems incongruent to me and I thought I'd say so, but admittedly I'm still catching up on this thread. — Uglydelicious
Doesn't capitalism rely on consumerism and necessarily foster an objectification and commodification of natural resources, — Uglydelicious
Sounds like you're there! So why do we not agree? — counterpunch
You did not contribute to the discussion between Issac and myself. — counterpunch
Your understanding of it is flawed. — counterpunch
You also inserted yourself into an argument between me and Tobias and gleefully attempted to aggravate the situation. — counterpunch
Why do you do that? — counterpunch
I thought it was a lot more recent than it was. Didn’t realize I was commenting on something from weeks ago. — khaled
How so? Here is what happened — khaled
not everyone who disagrees with you is a moron or biased. — khaled
Your replied with, effectively: “Because I worked on my philosophy really really hard so I must be right” a piss poor defense, because you then asked Isaac if he has done the same and it turns out he has and yet you two disagree. You then asked him “Then why do we disagree” and got no reply as far as I can see. — khaled
So I wanted to hammer the point home in case you didn’t get it. — khaled
You think you’ve “figured it all out” and all opposition is due to people being morons or disingenuous. — khaled
Yes. And who also knows that others suffering fulfills this appetite. — khaled
THIS IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! — counterpunch
So you didn't know what you were commenting on... — counterpunch
Bu that isn't what I said, is it? — counterpunch
I don't know Issac. It's not merely a matter of distance run, but whether you are running in the right direction.
Have you actively sought to abandon your assumptions and base your arguments in solid realities, like epistemology, evolution and physics, and then see if your philosophical favourites can be sustained in those terms?
Or are you looking down the wrong end of the telescope - starting with some metaphysical concept, like being, or some moral purpose - like equality, and bending the world around it?
Do you have a tendency to think in terms of superlatives - highest, fastest, biggest, strongest? That's often a road block.
Are you unreasonably attracted to nihilistic despair? You know you can just turn your back, because nihilism supports no value that requires you accept nihilism. All these, and a thousand other things - I've had to force my way past. Have you? — counterpunch
and sought to make matters worse — counterpunch
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