If you were interested, you might wonder what I mean by 'social' and 'delegitimising'. — unenlightened
The who what now? Contradiction in terms. — Pfhorrest
But, this Christian obsession is annoying and plainly wrong - I can't believe that someone who usually is so determined to get to the bedrock of human understanding is stuck in this shallow paradigm. The Logos idea is not even Christian. It was certainly around in 5 century BC with Heraclitus and who knows how much earlier. The entire Christian creed is derivative. — yebiga
Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the usual suspects.It has always been obvious to me that the political spectrum is spherical such that the extremes of left and right coincide like East and West do. Is this an unusual view? I think Orwell explained it in Animal Farm — unenlightened
Fascism is a specific ideology, or set of ideologies. It's not just any authoritarianism. Different visions of society can all have a similar drive towards being enforced by absolute authority, but that doesn't make the visions the same. — Echarmion
The original left — Pfhorrest
The individual is fundamental to Christianity, because without the individual, the whole prospect of the Judgment and of eternal heaven or eternal damnation fails. Christianity stands and falls with the prospect of the Judgment.dispute his often cited claim that our Judeo-Christian heritage plays a central role in formulating the Western World's greatest ideal: the Individual. — yebiga
Because they all need it and rely on it:Yet, Peterson repeatedly makes this judeo-chrisitian claim and the claim is never challenged. In fact even atheists like Harris have failed to call him out on it.
They protested against manufacturers who used machines — counterpunch
Not sure how to parse "the conservative left." — counterpunch
Everyone (I assume) wants to conserve what is good and progress to what is better. — unenlightened
If you are able to use machines to increase your productivity, you will probably support that change, whereas if I can do that and you cannot, and you lose your livelihood as a result, you might well think my machines a bad thing. — unenlightened
What was the original left? — unenlightened
So working class conservatism typically seeks to maintain traditional jobs in mining and heavy industry, restrictive practices, job demarkation, union dominance, skill hierarchies, male and white dominance — unenlightened
Add in the authoritarian/liberal dimension and you start to get something a bit more nuanced by which to understand the varieties of political commitment. — unenlightened
Hurling insults about at hypothetical interest groups and power groups is rather what I want to get away from. — unenlightened
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