That was sort of my point.
It is not social constructs that account for some gender disparities.
For example most men are not willing or interested in being stay at home parent compared to women.
That simply is not as validating to most men compared to women. — m-theory
I don't fight battles that I'm certain to lose now, that would be silly no? I have a new client who hates Trump for example, and I had to listen to him yesterday for ~30mins ranting about Trump related things. Of course I kept my mouth shut, nod the head and agreed with him, otherwise I'm sure I would've lost the job >:OYou must know, as "a very conflictual person... I enjoy conflicts" that conflicts can be extremely risky -- not that one will necessarily be shot (except if you live in Chicago) but one is more likely to get fired, passed over for promotion, demoted, shunned, etc. if one is too conflictual. — Bitter Crank
You have a right to think whatever makes the most sense to you. — Mongrel
↪Bitter Crank Are you fucking kidding me? — Mongrel
Sojourner Truth (1797-1883): Ain't I A Woman?
Delivered 1851
Women's Convention, Akron, Ohio
Well, children, where there is so much racket there must be something out of kilter. I think that 'twixt the negroes of the South and the women at the North, all talking about rights, the white men will be in a fix pretty soon. But what's all this here talking about?
That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place! And ain't I a woman? Look at me! Look at my arm! I have ploughed and planted, and gathered into barns, and no man could head me! And ain't I a woman? I could work as much and eat as much as a man - when I could get it - and bear the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne thirteen children, and seen most all sold off to slavery, and when I cried out with my mother's grief, none but Jesus heard me! And ain't I a woman?
Then they talk about this thing in the head; what's this they call it? [member of audience whispers, "intellect"] That's it, honey. What's that got to do with women's rights or negroes' rights? If my cup won't hold but a pint, and yours holds a quart, wouldn't you be mean not to let me have my little half measure full?
Then that little man in black there, he says women can't have as much rights as men, 'cause Christ wasn't a woman! Where did your Christ come from? Where did your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothing to do with Him.
If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these women together ought to be able to turn it back , and get it right side up again! And now they is asking to do it, the men better let them.
Obliged to you for hearing me, and now old Sojourner ain't got nothing more to say. — https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/sojtruth-woman.asp
This is some dumb shit right here — Heister Eggcart
So, are you really in favor of people thinking whatever makes the most sense to them or not?
The comment was about the STYLE of filling male roles, not that females can't fill male roles, or males can't fill female roles. If women and men were both drafted here the way they are in Israel, being a female soldier would be routinized. It isn't in the US.
If you find my style preferences to be an affront, then I say, that is too fucking bad. — Bitter Crank
I just don't agree with the view that social constructs account for all gender disparity. — m-theory
Attractiveness and culturally appropriateness do not seem to be relevant to me. — Emptyheady
Another exception: I will never hire a male nanny to look after my children. I have a deep suspicion of male nannies, and I hold that right to be sexist in this regard. — Emptyheady
So do you disapprove of men in drag? — Mongrel
Good point. Being influential, or considered significant, does not mean that a philosopher is philosophically significant. Like Hegel, for instance ;)If we take care to distinguish significance from influence — Pierre-Normand
To be "free" of patriarchy is codename for being immoral and not worrying about it. Obligations freely chosen are part of freedom, and it would destroy freedom itself to destroy such obligations.My generation is too soon to be trying to see what women can be when they're free of patriarchy. — Mongrel
What patriarchy really stands for is discipline, respect, devotion, love and filial piety. — Agustino
What patriarchy really stands for is discipline, respect, devotion, love and filial piety.
— Agustino
No, patriarchy "is a social system in which males hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property."1
I don't see what that has to do with your claimed virtues. As if an egalitarian society leads to chaos, cruelty, and disrespect... — Michael
I won't give two taels for your abstract definition. What does this practically, in concreto, mean? Does it mean that women are encouraged to be decent people and take into account the feelings of their families? Does it mean that women are encouraged to be respectful instead of arrogant? Does it mean that women are encouraged to be chaste, instead of promiscuous? Is that a form of lacking in "social privilege"? :-}No, patriarchy "is a social system in which males hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property."1 — Michael
"Renounce the bong, and it will be a hundread times better for everyone" - adaptation from the Tao Te Ching X-)Oh but see if you just define it differently then the other thing won't exist because that's how reality works see. — StreetlightX
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