. This makes a country so much powerful. Having a currency that is so valuable around the world makes the difference.Primarily, all other currencies would be valued against the USD as they were towards gold previously. — synthesis
I will. Thank you for the recommendation.You should read up on how the international monetary system works — synthesis
The obvious confusion in your OP is your dithering between profitable and ethical. Perhaps you might clean that up. — Banno
...you say that like it meant something...? — Banno
As I have already stated, and I will continue to say: - While the people you love to belittle and degrade bring interesting content and questions to the table of debate, you glorify yourself by copying and pasting the link of an article on the forum and making a statement of two lines.
I believe that the real "whinning" here, are just those who truly have no content, and when they leave relevance, let themselves be consumed by bitterness. — Gus Lamarch
Robbery is taking someone’s property by force or by threat of force. — NOS4A2
What can better avoid an argument than quibbling and nitpicking about the choice of words? — NOS4A2
How many would pay taxes if there wasn't a punishment for not doing so?
Thus, governments take what they want under threat of violence.
Whether that is ethical I will leave to each to decide for their own. — Tzeentch
we agree it's an accepted means of exchange. — Benkei
True of all property. — Isaac
Is it? — Tzeentch
it assumes the market automatically leads to just outcomes. It quite clearly doesn't because economic transactions are representative of relations of power, not moral worth. — Benkei
It's not nitpicking, it's central to the whole issue. What constitutes property is defined by law.
20% (or whatever) of your wages legally belongs to the government because it is defined by law that it does. That's absolutely no different to the way in which the remaining 80% belongs to you - because it is defined as such by law.
You want to claim one is 'robbery' but the other not when they are of no different status at all.
This makes a country so much powerful. Having a currency that is so valuable around the world makes the difference.
But I guess (If I finally get your points) one of the most difficult goals is facing the dollar. So probably this is the reason why the Eurosystem was created. New profitable currency which can face the Dollar.
Nevertheless p, it is interesting because we are giving “value” to some coins than others. — javi2541997
The global economy is a massive ruse in many ways and although it works on some levels (particularly for governments and corporations) — synthesis
The entire Euro-system was doomed from the beginning but that's another story! — synthesis
The problem with the assumption that tax is theft is that there's either a moral or legal right to pre-tax income. There isn't. The legal argument is clear, the law clearly prescribes your don't have a right to your entire pre-tax income.
Morally is incoherent too, because it assumes the market automatically leads to just outcomes. It quite clearly doesn't because economic transactions are representative of relations of power, not moral worth.
In a world where people would not pay taxes unless forced by threat of violence to do so, I can't see how those same people would refrain from just driving away in your car unless threat of violence prevented them. what is it about your car which makes it sacrosanct in the minds of the same people who would let children starve for want of a few pounds on their tax bill? — Isaac
If you posit a world where people care as little as possible about the welfare of others unless forced by threat of violence to do more, I don't see ownership being anything other than a free-for-all with the strongest winning. — Isaac
The entire Euro-system was doomed from the beginning but that's another story!
— synthesis
Agree. This can start a different debate lol. — javi2541997
So if I take your car it's morally wrong for you to try and take it back if I don't want you to? God, it's like discussing with a three year old.
People apparently need to be forced to care. I think that fact is as unfortunate as the coercion itself. — Tzeentch
In addition, the violent reprisal to the would-be car thief is an assumption on the thief's part, whereas the intention of government to coerce one with violence is clearly stated in law. — Tzeentch
I'd imagine that if the object to be stolen was a loaf of bread and the thief had some good reason for stealing it, there may not be any violent reprisals at all. — Tzeentch
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