My life-long aspiration :point: gnóthi seautón ... panta rhei ... pan metron ariston ... tetrapharmakos —> aponia, ataraxia (& eudaimonia) ... apatheia ...Socrates aka the father of western philosophy was Greek, ugly (take a look at his bust) and also a self-avowed gadfly, annoying everybody with his deep nevertheless embarassing questions.
Thus, in a sense, a real philosopher is anyhideous and annoyinng Greek you happen to cross paths with. — TheMadFool
Of course, I asked the question of what is a 'real' philosopher, and it is possible that the academics may consider themselves to be the 'real' ones, especially if they have a title of professor. However, they write in academic journals and apart from students of philosophy it is unlikely that many read their writings, although that probably applies to maths. — Jack Cummins
My life-long aspiration :point: gnóthi seautón ... panta rhei ... pan metron ariston ... tetrapharmakos —> aponia, ataraxia (i.e. eudaimonia) ... apatheia ... — 180 Proof
Change is the only constant — Heraclitus
Change is an illusion — Parmenides
Words to the heat of deeds too cold breath gives — Shakespeare
Do as I say, not as I do — God
What is terrible is easy to endure — Jack Cummins
There are probably certain criteria for measuring success, and even amongst people who have been published there are some published writers and philosophers who are considered as more important or significant. I would certainly not say that popularity is necessarily the main measure, but some people might disagree. So, I am asking what does it mean to say that one is a philosopher, and who are the 'real' philosophers? — Jack Cummins
I do agree with your point about whether or not one makes a living out of being a philosopher being an important marker. — Jack Cummins
While expertise probably counts for something, I am sure that there are complex power dynamics and an elite hierarchy within establishing philosophy circles. — Jack Cummins
From posts which I have read by you, it seems that your interests lie in the border between philosophy and psychology. — Jack Cummins
Certain albums by the Doors, U2, Dylan, David Bowie and all the current ones are central to my life and philosophy quest. I wonder to what extent many other people feel that way too. — Jack Cummins
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