Fish, if you want to have a proper discussion about non-actuals, then why not start a thread? Or we could have a debate - that would be fun, and I have a bit of time over the next couple of weeks. — Banno
Well, there is an x such that x is purple and flies and is an elephant. — Banno
...if the universe of discourse is the world. — fishfry
SO there is a need to keep track of the domain - universe of discourse - in which our conversation occurs. — Banno
(Edit: Just to be clear... your intention is not to defend the OP, is it? This is a side issue, yes? Or do you think this approach might save "Existence Is Infinite"?) — Banno
This is a side issue, yes? — Banno
I happened to wander by and saw you claim that space and time exist because they have properties. — fishfry
That wasn't a drive-by shot? — Banno
OK. I was using "exists" as it was used in the OP, following on that conversation., — Banno
You bought something in from another domain. — Banno
Sure, I might better have said space and time are actual because their properties are actual, — Banno
but I don't think that would have been understood by Lavender, int he context. — Banno
So, existence would be not just the marbles (or the things that exist), but it should also include their pattern of change. In other words, existence is a pattern of change of things that exist (if there are not things that exist, there is not existence; and if there is not a pattern of change, there is not existence either). — Daniel
Purple flying elephants have properties. They're purple, they're elephants, and they fly. But they don't exist. Even nonexistent things have properties. — fishfry
Yes imaginary, fictive, nonexistent things do have properties: imaginary, fictive, nonexistent properties. They also have real properties; the properties of being imaginery, fictive, and nonexistent. — Janus
nonexistent properties. — Janus
Even imaginary entities have real properties. — fishfry
Ok so when you say "infinite," you mean something other than the mathematical definition.
What then is your definition of infinite? If you just say "unlimited" that doesn't actually tell me anything. — fishfry
If infinity is physical, would the Continuum hypothesis then become a question of physics? And would not physics postdocs then be applying for grants to study the matter? What do you make of the fact that none have so applied as of yet? — fishfry
SO what? Things that exist may have quantity or extent; but existence does not have quantity or extent. Individual existents may have duration, but existence? — Banno
I have nothing in my pocket. — Banno
Space is part of the structure of existence. Space helps structure existence as spaces help structure sentences. Space allows for motion, transmission and dynamic interaction; it allows for things to integrate and disperse. — daniel j lavender
Whether there is a smallest thing or not is rather inconsequential. Even if there were a smallest thing, a smallest object, a smallest particle, or a smallest pocket of space it would still be a thing, it would still be something, it would still be part of existence. A smallest thing would not create a gap of nonexistence. — daniel j lavender
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