First, the compatibility of God (understood as an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being) and antinatalism (understood to be the thesis that it is immoral to procreate, other things being equal). — Bartricks
Again, seek professional help, and don't expect any more replies from me. — ernest meyer
Ad hominem. Do you have a criticism of the argument or can you not face arguments for conclusions that you dislike? — Bartricks
What is wrong with you people? — Bartricks
Did you actually read the OP? What is wrong with you people? Rather than address the actual arguments you just decide the arguer is a misanthrope. Er, I'm not. I just follow arguments where they lead and don't pathetically decide that what's true is what i want to be. Now stop the ad hominems and try - try - and engage with the arguments if you can. Sheesh. — Bartricks
This world is a prison, and if you try and procreate you are actively trying to bring an innocent person into the prison to join you - which is wicked. — Bartricks
But it also stands to reason that God would not have allowed innocent creatures to live in ignorance in a dangerous world. — Bartricks
if you try and procreate you are actively trying to bring an innocent person into the prison to join you — Bartricks
What is wrong with you people? — Bartricks
:halo:[ ... ] I think then that God's existence is entirely compatible with antinatalism and furthermore careful reflection on what the purpose of our lives may be, shows that God's existence positively implies the truth of antinatalism. This world is a prison, ... — Bartricks
:naughty:If a creator deity
If its creatures are procreative
If that creator deity is triple-omni and created "the best of all possible worlds"
If a "teleological suspension of the ethical" obtains (i.e. "faith" in your deity) and thereby justifies theodicy
If "revealed truth" includes the command from this deity to his procreative creatures to "be fruitful and multiply",
Then antinatalism disobeys "the teleological suspension of the ethical" (i.e. loss of "faith" in your deity) and the command to "be fruitful and multiply"
Therefore antinatalism goes against "God" (i.e. sin aka "wicked")
It turns out I was actually a psychologist, and I agree my first answer was not appropriate, but my second was. — ernest meyer
↪Bartricks
But it also stands to reason that God would not have allowed innocent creatures to live in ignorance in a dangerous world.
— Bartricks
If this is true then this is false:
if you try and procreate you are actively trying to bring an innocent person into the prison to join you
— Bartricks
You can't have both. — khaled
It's much more likely that something is wrong with you than that something is wrong with everyone. — khaled
Anything can be construed to be rational, if you commence with an unfounded presupposition. — Aryamoy Mitra
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