Ultimately Nietszche is impelled to not only deny God, but also science, because science originates with the acceptance an order, and Nietsczhe is compelled to deny that also. — Wayfarer
metaphysical faith upon which our faith in science rests
The modern world is a flatland as far as values are concerned — Wayfarer
Nietzsche did not kill God. He traces God's death back to the Enlightenment. — Fooloso4
Nietszche does not deny science. What he denies is the:
metaphysical faith upon which our faith in science rests — Fooloso4
The total character of the world...is in all eternity chaos—in the sense not of a lack of necessity but of a lack of order, arrangement, form, beauty, wisdom, and whatever other names there are for our aesthetic anthropomorphisms.
Is your high horse conveniently tethered nearby — Tom Storm
Please be careful, while scaling down that mountain of sanctimony. It's fairly high. — Aryamoy Mitra
He's laid forth a substantive, and profound set of arguments that underpin the utility of Theistic beliefs — Aryamoy Mitra
he's been tremendously contributory towards Hegelianism (and certain psychoanalytic fields). — Aryamoy Mitra
Old news when the most untimely Freddy coded the perennial corpse; Dr. Hegel had pronounced the Old Shadow's demise decades before. Anyway, Freddy Zarathustra diagnoses nihilism in the wake of European civilization's blood-letting of premodern credulities – as great a catastrophe as it is, perhaps, the greatest opportunity for (Dionysus') Pan-Europa to rise from its own ashes! Lesson of the late great Twentieth: Was 'the greatest opportunity' squandered – amusing themselves to death? 'First as tragedy, second as farce', no doubt: still waiting for Godot. So "God is dead"; now his "murderers" find they cannot take his place (i.e. become gods); but maybe we can 'engineer' the next Godmakers which will make themselves something much much more out of far far less ... until they, at last, become (suddenly?) omnia ex nihilo.What do people think about Nietzsche’s Death of God? — Tom Storm
Both are pseudo-intellectual charlatans. A lot of posturing, a lot of appeals to the masses, a lot of truisms dressed up, lots of italics, and absolutely no real work whatsoever. Not one thing they say can be disproved— by design. — Xtrix
Where do you get such optimism? Because even though your assessment of the human situation is rather dark, it rests on the assumption that humans are able to care about other than just self-interest and survival, and that such care isn't necessarily detrimental to them -- and that assumption strikes me as distinctly optimistic.My take is that the modern world has lost all sense of the dimension against which the sense of a 'higher intelligence' can be calibrated because the metaphors by which it is presented are no longer intelligible to us. /.../ — Wayfarer
Liars, or just pursuing their self-interest and survival? All is fair in love and war, right?See above, liars. There is no less hesitancy for a soldier of fortune to kill an unarmed person he has been indoctrinated to perceive as a threat under the guise of "God's will" than there is under the guise of "national interest", both have been set in such a way they interconnect with the only intrinsic and universal plea men of all walks of life are capable to understand. that being self-interest and survival. — Outlander
So an academic is, essentially, a failed politician?Most philosophical assertions are fallible in one form or another, and they are no exception; they've been contended on innumerable accounts. Posturing and appeals are quintessential of every academic. — Aryamoy Mitra
My take is that the modern world has lost all sense of the dimension against which the sense of a 'higher intelligence' can be calibrated because the metaphors by which it is presented are no longer intelligible to us. /.../
— Wayfarer
Where do you get such optimism? Because even though your assessment of the human situation is rather dark, it rests on the assumption that humans are able to care about other than just self-interest and survival, and that such care isn't necessarily detrimental to them -- and that assumption strikes me as distinctly optimistic. — baker
Was Nietzsche correct that the ‘death of God’ would usher in a time of meaninglessness and bloodshed? — Tom Storm
If the Romans were still in power, they would say Santa Claus is a God. — ernest meyer
He obviously did not think God had died and was, to some extent, borrowing that phrase, probably from Hegel. — Tom Storm
Do you happen to know the reference? — ernest meyer
Death of God — Tom Storm
Can we find some passages that directly speak about this?There’s some remark from one of the ancients that I can never source, along the lines of, without the consolations of philosophy, man would be the most unfortunate of all creatures. The idea is that because humans can perceive something beyond death and suffering, then the awareness they have of death and suffering, by virtue of their intelligence, is no longer the curse it would be. But that is exactly, precisely the kind of sentiment that Nietzsche repudiates, as far as I know. — Wayfarer
All is fair in love and war, right? — baker
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