And, if there are two basic camps - the camp of "change" or "left" and the camp of "preservation" or "right" - who is right or wrong? — Apollodorus
Otherwise put, what is more important, permanence or change? — Apollodorus
... but once the change is in place I'm sure the left wants it to be permanent. — Apollodorus
It follows that the element of permanence, of conservatism, is dominant in both of them and this seems to suggest that permanence or conservatism comes first as a fundamental predisposition of all human beings and of life in general — Apollodorus
What they seek to conserve is their own orthodoxies. As a group they cannot agree on what those are. — Fooloso4
But the same applies to the opposite camp, does it not? Marxists have changed little since Marx and there are many strands of "leftism". — Apollodorus
You're definitely right about free speech, it's fast becoming a rare commodity — Apollodorus
Free speech has also been tenuous. We are simply struggling to find its boundaries once again in a changing world. — Fooloso4
But what about the "Left", the camp of change? What can we say about it? I doubt that we can say it is "afraid of permanence" or that it "hates permanence". It may hate the status quo, which is why it wants change, but once the change is in place I'm sure the left wants it to be permanent.
It follows that the element of permanence, of conservatism, is dominant in both camps and this seems to suggest that permanence or conservatism comes first as a fundamental predisposition of all human beings and of life in general. — Apollodorus
what is more important, permanence or change? — Apollodorus
Insisting on change at all costs and no matter what is quite another thing. — Apollodorus
First of all, many thanks to everyone for your interesting contributions. — Apollodorus
He is involved in several nationalist and fascist political groups in New Zealand.
In 1980, Bolton co-founded the New Zealand branch of the Church of Odin, a pro-Nazi organisation for "whites of non-Jewish descent".
He founded the national-socialist Order of the Left Hand Path (OLHP).It was intended to be an activist front promoting an "occult-fascist axis"
Bolton created and edited the Black Order newsletter, The Flaming Sword, and its successor, The Nexus, a satanic-Nazi journal — Fooloso4
I have a brother who's two years my senior and who I grew up with. He was always resistant to new experiences and change, and is very much conservative. I'm the opposite. — praxis
I have a brother who's two years my senior and who I grew up with. He was always resistant to new experiences and change, and is very much conservative. I'm the opposite.
— praxis
Perhaps older siblings tend to be more resistant to change. This would tend to support what I was saying. — Apollodorus
In any case, the book I'm reading has absolutely nothing in it about "Nazism", "Odinism" or "anti-semitism". What the author does in his spare time is his business. Maybe he acquired new interests after writing the book. I don't think that's a reason to ban it or try to suppress philosophical debate on a discussion forum. If anything, any such attempts can only serve to confirm the point he's making, i.e. that spurious "scientific" analysis is being used to suppress political opposition. — Apollodorus
Just because you're a Marxist that doesn't make the rest of us "Nazis", "Odinists" and "anti-semites" — Apollodorus
And what makes us so defensive when discussing opposite views? Why do we sometimes simultaneously reserve the right to be different while also expecting others to be like us? — Apollodorus
Not only that, but I'm not even discussing the book, I just said I was reading it. Maybe you need some reading glasses or something? — Apollodorus
The book has nothing of that sort in it at all. Plus, it's been endorsed by psychology professors like Kevin MacDonald — Apollodorus
Of course Wikipedia might be part of the character assassination, but hmm...Kevin B. MacDonald (born January 24, 1944) is an American anti-semitic conspiracy theorist, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, and a retired professor of evolutionary psychology at California State University, Long Beach (CSULB).[1][2][3] In 2008, the CSULB academic senate voted to disassociate itself from MacDonald's work.[4]
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