Leftism is not defined as an opposition to the status quo. — frank
Am I? One says that psyches needn't be same, the other that some methodical study might be the best way to find out if they are or not. — Isaac
Reductionism is not a flaw limited political psychology, nor is it a flaw which exhausts political psychology. — Isaac
Troll — frank
However, by definition, the left represents opposition to the status quo. — Apollodorus
Is it possible that there are some personality traits that are statistically more commonly shared by liberals than conservatives and others more common to conservatives? If so, is there any value in identifying them? — Fooloso4
Maybe you're misunderstanding what I'm specifically I'm targeting here — Maw
By 'psychology' you mean modeling similar to climate models or models of the earth's em field, or the Yellowstone Caldera.
The OP is obviously not using the word that way. — frank
Is it possible that there are some personality traits that are statistically more commonly shared by liberals than conservatives and others more common to conservatives? If so, is there any value in identifying them? — Fooloso4
The problem with that definition is that to a greater or lesser degree the status quo is the result of the work of the left, and so, to that extent opposing the status quo would mean opposing themselves. — Fooloso4
You changed to liberal/conservative. That's not the same as left/right, is it? — frank
The change was not intentional. I do not think there are hard and fast definitions of these terms. There may be a useful distinction between liberal and left or conservative and right, but I did not have one in mind. — Fooloso4
Well, some leftists believe in "permanent revolution" — Apollodorus
I think any 'traits' we identify are socially mediated constructions, not features of the psyche that can be 'discovered' by any experimental set-up. So the premise is flawed from the start, but this has been at issue for over twenty years, so the likes of Klein and Haidt are just being disingenuous pretending otherwise. — Isaac
Maybe you're misunderstanding what I'm specifically I'm targeting here. — Maw
I'm talking about political psychology that says liberals are liberals and conservatives are conservatives because of they have X Y Z behavioral or personality traits. — Maw
In America, what distinguishes leftists from liberals and progressives—as well as conservatives—is their commitment to radical equality. Leftists are more likely than liberals to argue that economic inequality renders America’s constitutional liberties hollow.
It wasn't so much a misunderstanding as a declining of your opening gambit. — Isaac
To be clear, any attempt to psychologically map out an explanation for why and how conservatives and liberals or whatever political appellation believe what they believe is nonsense. It's about as vague as astrology and just as predictive. — Maw
Yes, that is true but I that does not describe most who consider themselves on the left. Some on the right/conservatives/Republicans will label them "leftists", but that is a rhetorical ploy. — Fooloso4
when they do provide a more accurate non-psychological explanation for why conservatives are minimizing the virus threat, viz. that they are digesting a wide apparatus of conservative messaging, including propaganda from the President, that is downplaying the virus for political reasons, — Maw
I think any 'traits' we identify are socially mediated constructions, not features of the psyche that can be 'discovered' by any experimental set-up. So the premise is flawed from the start, but this has been at issue for over twenty years, so the likes of Klein and Haidt are just being disingenuous pretending otherwise.
— Isaac
It’s been awhile since I read Righteous Minds but I seem to recall the ‘foundations’ being regarded as social constructs. Constructs that are based on moral intuitions that we all possess. You’re against this intuitionism? — praxis
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