Theodicy (/θiːˈɒdɪsi/) means vindication of God. It is to answer the question of why a good God permits the manifestation of evil, thus resolving the issue of the problem of evil. — Wikipedia
The problem of evil is the question of how to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God — Wikipedia
Our post-human successors will rewrite the vertebrate genome, redesign the global ecosystem, and abolish suffering throughout the living world. — David Pearce (Hedonistic Transhumanist)
But will you be able to get hold of a plumber on Sunday mornings? — Tom Storm
I prefer a technological Singularity, then merging with Strong AI, and then abandoning this planetary clot of dirt & blood for a nonplanetary spacefaring existence rather than, in effect, living la vita lobotomy on an 'extinction event'-attracting transhumanist earth. — 180 Proof
Now, transhumanism, specifically hedonistic transhumanism of which David Pearce is a proponent claims or predicts that humans will/can abolish all suffering with the aid of technology — TheMadFool
Because tech has already solved so many global problems with no negative consequences.... — Pantagruel
Maybe the dinos saw the killer comet coming but after c170-odd million years of mostly grazing monotony the "smart ones" didn't tell the others and saying to themselves, "Fuck it, we've had a helluva long run. Finally something new!" Even the "smartest" probably couldn't believe the wipe-out would be so total that there would be no coming back from it for big cold-blooded reptiles. :monkey:Sixth great extinction. But first suicidal one. — Manuel
Yep, it's call the [i[sixth[/i] great extintion (we're living through at the moment) – end of the Anthropocene. "Twist in the plot" indeed. — 180 Proof
It still doesn't explain, why for millions of years god allowed many millions of beings, which god caused to come into existence, to suffer a life of horrific agony. — Down The Rabbit Hole
I suspect the "elites" here there and everywhere have been prepping for decades for decades-to-centuries-long survival in a bunker, etc remote from population-centers in order to ride out the coming civilizational shit-show collapse with family descendents and a "loyal" retinue of militia & staff because, y'know, they think they are the "smart ones" who will bring the world back from the shitter "when the time comes". :sweat: — 180 Proof
The problem of evil is the question of how to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God
— Wikipedia — TheMadFool
I've heard of such folks - survivalists, they're called I believe. — TheMadFool
"PoE" is a pseudo-problem at best because theism is not true — 180 Proof
Again, there is no "PoE", it's a pseudo-problem because theism is not true. Your "contention", Fool, is simply incoherent on that score – it considers a purported solution which, in this context, is searching for a problem. Besides, "transhumanism" only gets you this, at best:My contention, for what it's worth, is that transhumanism gives theists a golden opportunity to tackle theproblem of evil— TheMadFool
What you say about "abolishing all pain" does not also abolish dissatisfaction or self-immiserating behavior? Misery will still reign but without negative feedbacks :yikes: from which to learn, or adapt, (just like the hazards of being born disabled from lack of adequately functioning pain-receptors). Might as well call a lobotomy with a 24/7 morphine drip a "solution to the PoE". :sweat:technological abolition of all sentient pain (yeah, good idea if it works :ok:) =|= psychological abolition of all dissatisfaction (dukkha) or foolery (maladaptive conduct) — 180 Proof
theism is not true — 180 Proof
If you're certain, you're most certainly wrong — Bertrand Russell
Might as well call a lobotomy with a 24/7 morphine drip a "solution to the PoE". — 180 Proof
"Solution" to what?What if that is the "solution"? — TheMadFool
What are you talking about? Any topic that, "by definition", can't be talked or reasoned about is, by definition, nonsense (or babytalk) ...Keep an open mind on matters that are, by definition, not within either the grasp of language or within the domain of classical logic.
The best response against the claim of am omnibenevolent, omnipotent, and omniscient god is the kind of in-your-face evil we see all around us. Put differently, evil is a real and yet unsolved "problem" for theism. — TheMadFool
Get rid of God as traditionally conceived and things simply are the way they are. — Ciceronianus the White
You can try to rescue yours by saying what evil is. Then the omnis. A few sentences. I invite you to try. — tim wood
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