The Nazis were full of resentment against so-called enemies and full of self-pity and emphasised blind obedience and conformity to their Fuhrer. — Ross Campbell
What should not be overlooked is that Nazism went hand in hand with Christianity. — Fooloso4
Christianity and Nazism are related by the simple fact that most Nazis were also Christians. — Fooloso4
Many Christians were also anti-semitic which was one reason Nazism was attractive. — Fooloso4
But none of this has anything to do with Nietzsche's notion of slave morality. — Fooloso4
That's not a correlation. The vast number of people in Western civilization were Christians. — Hanover
Nietzsche characterizes slave morality as one which emphasized obedience, pity, conformity and following the herd. And he said that it's a morality based on resentment but it seems to me that this is more true of nazism rather than Christianity'. — Ross Campbell
Nietzsche was openly critical of Christianity and he would describe that religion as being consistent with a slave morality. — Hanover
You claimed that Nazism and Christianity go hand in hand, so it appeared you were making the argument that Nazis and the Christians, whose hands were clasped together, were all members of the same slave moral mentality. — Hanover
His analysis is genealogical. — Fooloso4
I would have hoped that in a thread whose title is Nietzsche's notion slave of morality there would be a discussion of Nietzsche's notion slave of morality. — Fooloso4
Well, Nietzsche hated Nazis along with "Christianity."
See the Genealogy of Morals for details. — Valentinus
It's likely Nietzsche would have thought the Nazi's a bunch of tossers and cowardly conformists. — Tom Storm
All honor to the ascetic ideal insofar it is honest! so long as it believes in itself and does not play tricks on us! But I do not like all these coquettish bedbugs with their insatiable ambition to smell out the infinite, until at last the infinite smells of bedbugs; I do not like these whited sepulchers who imitate life; I do not like these weary played-out people who wrap themselves in wisdom and look "objective"; I do not like these agitators dressed up as heroes who wear the magic cap of ideals on their straw heads; I do not like these ambitious artists who like to pose as ascetics and priest but who are at bottom only tragic buffoons; and I also do not like these latest speculators in idealism, the anti-Semites who today roll their eyes in a Christian-Aryan-bourgeois manner and exhaust one's patience by trying to rouse up all the horned-beast elements in the people by a brazen abuse of the cheapest of all agitator's tricks, moral attitudinizing (that no kind of swindle fails to succeed in Germany today is connected with the undeniable and palpable stagnation of the German spirit; and the cause of that I seek in a too exclusive diet of newspapers, politics, beer, and Wagnerian music, together with the presupposition of such a diet: first, national constriction and vanity, the strong but narrow principle "Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles," and then the paralysis agitans of modern ideas. — Translated by Walter Kaufman, 3rd essay, section 26
It is all about obedience, self pity, resentment, conformity, hatred of life , all the things which Nietzsche accusses Christianity of. Jesus however was a strong, courageous, independent minded person. — Ross Campbell
They also had "God is with us" festooned on Nazi/Wehrmacht belt buckles. — Tom Storm
my point is that the values Nazism espouses is closer to a slave morality than Christianity is. — Ross Campbell
"Gott mit uns" was a Prussian military tradition going back to the 1800s. The Nazis simply continued it. I don't think we should read too much into it. — Apollodorus
"Gott mit uns" was a Prussian military tradition going back to the 1800s. The Nazis simply continued it. I don't think we should read too much into it.
9 minutes ago — Apollodorus
It is NOT exclusively a Prussian military tradition. — god must be atheist
I simply said the Nazis continued a Prussian tradition. — Apollodorus
They didn't specifically introduced it to appeal to Christians — Apollodorus
lol I do appreciate your sense of humor. Do carry on. — Apollodorus
There is no wrestler on the other side. — Valentinus
You aren't being challenged upon what you actually said. — Valentinus
I like to see some recognition that what I asserted was understood by any who would object. — Valentinus
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