what are the rules for determining the rightful owner of said property? — EricH
All is fair in love and war — John Lyly (Euphues)
By asking for "...rules..." you're already assuming that there are such rules — TheMadFool
By asking for "...rules..." you're already assuming that there are such rules but that, as history will attest to, is an utter falsehood - — TheMadFool
My hope is that you are wrong in saying (in essence) "might makes right" - my fear is that you are correct. — EricH
The fact that there aren't any rules doesn't mean that no rules can be established now or in the future. Or that we can't discuss the possibility — Apollodorus
My hope is that you are wrong in saying (in essence) "might makes right" - my fear is that you are correct. — EricH
My hope is that you are wrong in saying (in essence) "might makes right" - my fear is that you are correct. — EricH
So what you've done here is to pull out certain types of offenses, namely property related ones, and declared them not subject to moral analysis. So the argument goes: Theft in my country may be different than yours, but there is no objective right and wrong when it comes to theft. I assume you draw no distinction between real property issues (like who land belongs to) and personal property issues (like who a loaf of bread belongs to). — Hanover
They are no other!
And let all men say what they will, so long as such are rulers as call the land theirs, upholding this particular propriety of mine and thine, the common people shall never have their liberty, nor the land be ever freed from troubles, oppressions, and complainings, by reason whereof the Creator of all things is continually provoked...
— Gerald Winstanley
https://www.diggers.org/digger_tracts.htm
But there you go; as white and Christian and historical as you could possibly wish for, and within a cannon shot of where I was born. — unenlightened
They are no other? Are we a single amorphous mass of humanity like a big fat jellyfish floating on the world ocean? — Apollodorus
Now that I've defended my honor, — csalisbury
Personally I think nobody should own land that is considered "holy" or of religious historic value. Not lived on. Just held as a tourist destination without current financial interests. — TiredThinker
Personally I think nobody should own land that is considered "holy" or of religious historic value. Not lived on. Just held as a tourist destination without current financial interests.
— TiredThinker
That's how I feel about the commons. Wilderness "untrammeled by man" is sacred, holy, to me. — James Riley
I think it's called "capitalism". To them the commons is a tragedy. — unenlightened
But seriously, would Ireland really want North Ireland? All those loyalist paramilitaries that would be a pain in the ass if Northern Ireland became part of Ireland. And if the UK would brush aside North Ireland, then no worries about "The time of Troubles" coming ever back. The UK would be a far happier place. — ssu
But is there anything about the N. Ireland situation that could be generalized and used to resolve the Ukraine situation? — EricH
Ownership is as fleeting as the lifetime of an owner.We have not merely been given the world from our parents, we are also borrowing it from our children. — some African proverb I think
Does the Irish government it really want to deal with the Ulster Loyalists? Protestants are still majority in Northern Ireland and the country is still very segregated. When high walls separate communities, there isn't much social cohesion.ssu, of course, Ireland wants Ulster back to theirs. — javi2541997
More civilized than Turkey and Greece, I guess. But yes, one of NATO's reasons to exist is it's first article. Something we still do need in Europe.EricH said that at least they are not chucking missiles at each other. They are both members of NATO, and civilised countries which prefer to resolve the conflicts diplomatically. — javi2541997
Yes. And the next generations can romanticize the past "Troubles".It is a question of identity! — javi2541997
There are political ones. And in war, one side can win the other. It's a very effective way to end the problematic situation.Are there any geopolitical / moral / philosophical rules (or mechanism) that could allow us to resolve these situations? — EricH
Nearly the entire ethnic Armenian population has left Nagorno-Karabakh, as the first United Nations mission arrived in the largely deserted mountainous region on Sunday.
Stephane Dujarric, the spokesperson for the UN secretary general, said the United Nations team on the ground, the first UN mission to the region in 30 years, would “identify the humanitarian needs” both for people remaining and “the people that are on the move”.
Many of the Armenians who fled Nagorno-Karabkah said they felt the international mission’s visit came too late, after Azerbaijan reclaimed the area in a lightning military operation last month.
Secondly, Northern Ireland is the poorest part of the UK. And the Irish enjoy a higher GDP per capita than the UK. Hence Northern Ireland will be a huge drain of welfare payments from Ireland. — ssu
You value free speech. You realize, yes? that if you wrote that in Russia you would be detained and questioned and possibly jailed, if not sent to the front. Are you saying, then, that it is a war?It is very complex to juxtapose the N. Ireland conflict with the Ukraine-Russia war. — javi2541997
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