A shame that Pop missed this. I'd like to hear an explanation of the relation between spirit and energy, too. — Banno
I think the energy is related to the spirit / soul we feel ourselves to be
— Pop
What about intelligence? Or mind? Where does that fit into the picture? Is it ‘a product of’ energy? I think not.
— Wayfarer @Wayfarer
A shame that Pop missed this. I'd like to hear an explanation of the relation between spirit and energy, too. — Banno
I should not doubt or question. — Jack Cummins
Your threads might go further if you directly answer questions in such a way that your answers engender counterpoint-to-counterpoint (dialectical) replies. For instanceThis keeps happening and ends up with my thread not continuing at all. — Jack Cummins
If you avoid being pinned down, Jack, that's okay but there other threads to make or play on which will be more engaging. Good topics, mate, just not so good follow-ups.The OP raises an issue of "understanding reality" and (some) "understandings" have been presented. What about yours? — 180 Proof
You never enjoy the world aright, till the Sea itself flows in your veins, till you are clothed with the heavens, and crowned with the stars: and perceive yourself to be the sole heir of the whole world, and more than so, because men are in it who are every one sole heirs as well as you. Till you can sing and rejoice and delight in God, as misers do in gold, and Kings in sceptres, you never enjoy the world.
Till your spirit fills the whole world, and the stars are your jewels; till you are as familiar with the ways of God in all Ages as with your walk and table: till you are intimately acquainted with that shady nothing out of which the world was made: till you love men so as to desire their happiness, with a thirst equal to the zeal of your own: till you delight in God for being good to all: you never enjoy the world. — Thomas Traherne
There you go, sir, you've pinned it down with some of the very best thinkers (Laozi, Buddha, Heraclitus, Democritus & Epicurus ... Artie & Freddy ... Zapffe & Camus ...): "its constantly changing". :up: ... Isn't this the numinous (Artie's, not Cant's, noumenon)?Also, you say that it is hard to pin me down, but I think that is also true of reality too, because it is constantly changing. — Jack Cummins
Does E=mc2 prove materialism false? — Pop
as distinct from……. — Wayfarer
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