If you want to say that the thing in itself is an evolving process that co-evolves with us in inextricable fashion , then I would agree. — Joshs
That is, must consciousness always only occur, or exist, in a first person, present tense mode? — charles ferraro
Just that persons are the only conscious things we know of?What is it about consciousness that it must always be personified, or require personhood? — charles ferraro
Abstracting consciousness out of the limitation of personal perspective might be the essence of the concept of God.Is there a Consciousness in General? — charles ferraro
Does not every object of experience I encounter in the world that surrounds me, from the most simple to the most complex, have something inherently "mysterious" about it that has nothing to do with me or my ways of trying to describe, explain, or getting to know it; something that goes beyond, and will always transcend, whatever kinds of simple or complex interpretations I might give to it, or any ways I might claim to participate, epistemologically, in its partial or complete creation (e.g., Kant, Fichte, Schelling, Hegel)? — charles ferraro
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