Your inability to keep on topic is no one's problem but yours. Further posts to that effect will be deleted. — StreetlightX
But the clear and present danger to life and safety is clearly the Israeli state, which has been running a regime of terror for decades now. — StreetlightX
If my post was indeed just an inaccurate personal attack, then it should be easy to prove that by linking to your Syria threads. If such threads exist, then I'm wrong about my evaluation of your behavior here, and will be happy to say so. — Foghorn
I don't really have a point — Foghorn
Sigh. Even if it was an accurate personal attack it is still irrelevant. — Benkei
Yes, obviously there hasn't been enough death there... — ssu
It's irrelevant from a purely philosophical standpoint, but in the world of practical action something like this is very relevant. The problem with political issues like this is that they're not purely philosophical issues and cannot be with all of their complexity and real-world messiness, but since we're on a philosophy forum we typically try to stick to a philosophical framework which creates tension especially when the discussion at hand is by no means purely philosophical. — BitconnectCarlos
My point is that it's always irrelevant not just because we're on a philosophy forum. — Benkei
It all depends on the framework that you approach the conflict with. If your entire goal is to bash one side, sure you'll take material or arguments or facts from anywhere -- doesn't matter. All ammo is good ammo.
If your approach is to find a solution, then these other personal ideas do matter as they can contribute to the conflict. — BitconnectCarlos
If your entire goal is to bash one side, sure you'll take material or arguments or facts from anywhere -- doesn't matter. All ammo is good ammo. — BitconnectCarlos
There is no solution to be had if both sides don't agree on the facts. — Benkei
Even if it was an accurate personal attack it is still irrelevant — Benkei
My personal background is irrelevant to the argument forwarded. — Benkei
You're not going to get that -- welcome to the Middle East. You are never going to get your request here. To think that anyone can come from outside to set all the facts and all the history straight is white man savior syndrome. — BitconnectCarlos
If Israel is apartheid why do Arab Christians do quite well in Israel? — BitconnectCarlos
Lol! This is comedy gold!!! — Mystic
Well, Israel isn't apartheid in relation to Christians, but in relation to Palestinians. — Foghorn
Can you agree that there is a segment of the Israeli population (don't know percent) that has imperialist ambitions for land that has belonged to others for quite some time? — Foghorn
The Palestinians in Gaza are not part of Israel, thus they can't be under "apartheid." — BitconnectCarlos
Jews have also been in the West Bank for thousands of years and I don't think it's fair to ask us to leave. — BitconnectCarlos
I think this is the key factor. The politicians have vested interests in the continuing conflict.Yes, there are extremist Zionists who I regard as a problem. There are extremists on both sides and they both work off each other - one side says or does something inflammatory and the worst part of the other side responds. I'm all in favor of de-escalation, the only question is are the politicians?
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