My beliefs are irrelevant to the validity and soundness of your argument. Do you admit your argument is faulty? — Chany
Now let me ask you how can we distinguish between fictional beings and real beings? — TheMadFool
If you want an explanation as to how to distinguish between fact and fiction, please reread the many posts explaining just that — Chany
Science relies on effects of hypothesized entity to prove that said entity exists. — TheMadFool
It does not prove directly, it falsifies competing hypotheses and deduces that to the only hypothesis left. — Chany
Shifting goalposts from observable religious practices to the general teleological argument for the existence of god. Take it one step at a time. — Chany
Regarding your initial argument, the observation of religious practices as proof of God's existence, do you admit the argument is faulty and that we cannot use religious practices as good evidence of God's existence? — Chany
I want to do that with god. So, will you help me or not? What are the competing hypotheses? — TheMadFool
Suppose I'm wrong. How would you explain temples, prayer, rituals, ceremonies, festivals, etc.? — TheMadFool
Each observation would have to be taken per case by case, ultimately, though we may be able to group some into categories if we are lucky. What observation do you want to use God to explain? — Chany
Simply put, we made something like a god up as an explanation for something we saw. — Chany
I see people behaving in manners that indicate god exists. God's effects are everywhere - temples, food, rituals, etc. — TheMadFool
I ask you to help me distinguish between ''belief'' in something and the ''real'' thing but you don't have an answer. — TheMadFool
Please give me the list of hypotheses we have for the existence of this universe. — TheMadFool
Question begging. This is the key issue here and you're already assuming god is ''made up''. — TheMadFool
I asked the question because that's the point where we parted ways. I thought we should look for some common ground from where to continue the discussion.
Let me repeat my question:
How do we distinguish a ''belief in something'' from the ''real thing''? — TheMadFool
But if you can't answer that question yourself, then I'd rather not continue the discussion. — Sapientia
But I'm simply following your train of thought. Do you mean your thoughts and ideas are unworthy of discussion? — TheMadFool
You draw the line where it suits your needs. — TheMadFool
Yes, it suits my needs not to waste my time with someone who asks stupid questions that they should already know the answer to. Sorry. You'll have to find someone else. — Sapientia
Kindly shine the light of your knowledge and wisdom on me. I'd be grateful. — TheMadFool
Is my conclusion irrational? — Dredge
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