This is a common, and flawed, defense. — Foghorn
Please show me an example, and explain in what ways it is flawed. — counterpunch
I'm not a teenage girl! — counterpunch
The salient point is people disparage science and aren't interested in the subject - I find that interesting in a so called science obsessed society. — Tom Storm
My point is that, despite the fact that many more ppl died young in olden times, nevertheless, those who did survive enjoyed a richer culture, and I question the validity of the argument that science is undeniably good simply because it increases physical prosperity and longevity. — Todd Martin
Basically, would you agree with something like this:
As more people survive past childhood and live well into their 70's, human life and culture have become cheap, flat, superficial, lacking deeper meaning and value; lacking opportunity for true heroism and grit; commodities that are only meant to be consumed and then discarded. — baker
But I failed to point out to him that, of the two contemporary philosopher-authors of Socrates, Xenophon is the least esoteric. — Todd Martin
The problem inherent in the surface of things, and only in the surface of things, is the heart of things.
Western civilization according to Spengler aims at the infinite. — Wittgenstein
I would agree with all that, Mr. Baker — Todd Martin
Western civilization according to Spengler aims at the infinite. — Wittgenstein
It wasn't until the early 20 the century, philosophers realized that it will all come to an end. — Wittgenstein
But as the commentaries by Bloom's teacher Leo Strauss show, Xenophon was deeply ironic. that is to say, he cannot not simply be taken at face value. — Fooloso4
The problem inherent in the surface of things, and only in the surface of things, is the heart of things.
...A funny story told by Seth Benardete — Fooloso4
What's non-mathematical about science, to me, is what it has in common with philosophy - clear language, logical rigor, to name a few. We could focus on this non-mathematical side to science too you know. — TheMadFool
Only know because she mentioned it on a thread. — Wayfarer
“Cheers, mate! I will echo a sentiment of Bloom’s and say that, though we disagree on much, our concern for the same things proves we have more in common than what separates us. — Todd Martin
...my mother once told me, “your solution to problems is to run away from them”. — Todd Martin
I would have thought that was the hallmark of our era. — Tom Storm
Perhaps because many in the West have the luxury of being able to put off becoming a responsible adult for many years it seems. — Tom Storm
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