Owing to its (twilight's) distinctive quality, primarily the absence of shadows — Wikipwedia
During twilight stars of less brightness than the second magnitude are not visible to the naked eye. — Some Book
I think that it gives a really unusual metaphorical slant to the whole question of logic — Jack Cummins
Expose every belief to the light of reason, discourse, facts, scientific observations; question everything, be sceptical because this is the only chance at life you will ever get. — James Randi
If we would guide by the light of reason, we must let our minds be bold. — Louis D. Brandeis
the hidden aspect beyond the light of logic. — Jack Cummins
Recently, it dawned on me that [...] — TheMadFool
I will think about it in the light of day( and perhaps again in the twilight). — Jack Cummins
The old rooster Freddy Zarathustra has something to crow at the twilit Moon:To sum it all up, do we need to let the night fall (turn off reason) in order to see the stars (the other facets of reality) and/or wait for the full brightness of day (reason in full bloom) to make progress in problem areas of humanity's knowledge database? — TheMadFool
(Emphasis bolded is mine.)HOW THE “TRUE WORLD” FINALLY BECAME A FABLE. The History of an Error:
1. The true world -- unattainable but for the sage, the pious, the virtuous man; he lives in it, he is it.
(The oldest form of the idea, relatively sensible, simple and persuasive. A circumlocution for the sentence, "I, Plato, am the truth.")
2. The true world -- unattainable for now, but promised for the sage, the pious, the virtuous man ("for the sinner who repents").
(Progress of the idea: it becomes more subtle, insidious, incomprehensible -- it becomes female, it becomes Christian.)
3. The true world -- unattainable, indemonstrable, unpromisable; but the very thought of it -- a consolidation, an obligation, an imperative.
(At bottom, the old sun, but seen through mist and skepticism. The idea has become elusive, pale, Nordic, Königsbergian)
4. The true world -- unattainable? At any rate, unattained, and being unattained, also unknown. Consequently, not consoling, redeeming, or obligating: how could something unknown obligate us?
(Gray morning, The first yawn of reason. The cockcrow of positivism)
5. The "true" world -- an idea which is no longer good for anything, not even obligating -- an idea which has become useless and superfluous -- consequently a refuted idea: let us abolish it!
(Bright day; breakfast: return of bon sens and cheer-fulness; Plato's embarrassed blush; pandemonium of all free spirits.)
6. The true world -- we have abolished. What world has remained? The apparent one perhaps? But no! With the true world we also have abolished the apparent one.
(Noon: moment of the briefest shadow; end of the longest error; high point of humanity; INCIPIT ZARATHUSTRA.') — Twilight of the Idols
Not quite. Wombs and tombs are dark places, Fool, and light (reasoning) waxes and wanes by moving between them. One pauses to philosophize at "noon: moment of the briefest shadow" and then carries further this promethean fire in order to make (reflect) a path (life) by walking (thinking) through the maze.So, the whole idea of philosophy is to dismiss the very question that birthed it? — TheMadFool
Again ...All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking. — Twilight of the Idols
Not quite. Wombs and tombs are dark places, Fool, and light (reasoning) waxes and wanes by moving between them. One pauses to philosophize at "noon: moment of the briefest shadow" and then carries further this promethean fire in order to make (reflect) a path (life) by walking (thinking).
All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.
— Twilight of the Idols
Again ... — 180 Proof
I thought my quoting Freddy's "Noon: moment of the briefest shadow; end of the longest error; high point of humanity" would make the point, at least for me, (history AND lived-experience show) that more light (reason), not less (faith? woo? instinct?), engenders philosophical understanding. "The truth"? As Freddy wrote "... a Fable: the history of an Error". :fire:What do you make of my rather dangerous and yet intriguing suggestion to "turn off" reason, dim the light as it were, in order that we may see other sources of illumination, other ways/techniques/methods of getting tothe truth? — TheMadFool
I thought my quoting Freddy's "Noon: moment of the briefest shadow; end of the longest error; high point of humanity" would make the point that, for me, more light (reason) not less engenders philosophical understanding. "The truth"? As Freddy wrote "... a Fable: the history of an Error". — 180 Proof
What seems like the most irrational approach to a problem will often be ignored even if the results bear fruit. — I like sushi
But then is it really called knowing if it's unreasonable? Or something else? — Moliere
There are countless non/ir-rational paths that have been taken. Tell me where they've lead that the path of reason hasn't already passed by. Point out one of those dark paths that have gone farther / further than the lumen naturale. Isn't the goal to turn (metanoia) from the shadows on the wall and see that we can leave Plato's Cave (mystification) by following the sun (reasoning)?A sensible strategem - play it safe, why reinvent the wheel. — TheMadFool
Yes ...What's your metaphor doing for you? What does it illuminate, or ask? What is the night, the small stars? Or is it all just a kind of something that you're not sure of? — Moliere
On the flip side, reason in its current incarnation hasn't been able to make headway on many issues - the long list of unsolved problems in various disciplines is proof. — TheMadFool
There are countless non/ir-rational paths that have been taken. Tell me where they've lead that the path of reason hasn't already passed by. Point out one of those dark paths that have gone farther / further than the lumen naturale. Isn't the goal to turn (metanoia) from the shadows on the wall and see that we can leave Plato's Cave (mystification) by following the sun (reasoning)? — 180 Proof
Take religion for instance. It's, however much one objects to it, been a source of solace, hope, even truths to boot. It's now losing ground to reason that promotes a more skeptical attitude — TheMadFool
Reminds me of the gambler's fallacy. On the ceilings of some old casinos, like angels in a cathedral, they still paint stars. :sparkle:... the blessings of Fortuna ... — TheMadFool
Reminds me of the gambler's fallacy. On the ceilings of some old casinos, like angels in a cathedral, they still paint stars. :sparkle: — 180 Proof
Darkness within darkness, the gateway to all mysteries. — Tao Te Ching
Yes, of course, Feyerabend's rebut to Popper. To wit: "Name the greatest of all inventors. Accident." ~Mark TwainYou do agree, of course, that chance has a major role to play in discoveries big and small, right? — TheMadFool
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